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Funny thing is, I have the exact opposite of your experience. Every Nvidia driver, stable or beta, always gives me TDR crashes. I have tried both 460 and 560 Ti so it is not a card problem. Which is why I ended up swapping my 560 Ti to 6950.

Me too.. I guess we're lucky? My HD3870 only gave me problems once, and when I switched to another driver the problems went away. Even Linux drivers needed work but I didn't have screen tearing like others did. My 6970... not a single problem so far (I don't use Linux anymore though...)

I should also mention low-end cards usually are made with cheaper capacitors and poor cooling. They also tend to have more hardware quirks, leading to more blue-screens. I'm not saying the drivers aren't to blame - just acknowledging that it causes problems sometimes.
    
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Opposite here, i quit NVIDIA after my 8800 GTS blew up from drivers, been with ATI every since and all has been well.
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When Nvidia and AMD use the same company to manufacture their GPUs, and Nvidia has much lower yields, what exactly would you call that? Poor business move in designing GPUs that have a greater chance of failure.

Your argument falls flat on one key problem.

AMD uses TWO chip fabricators, nvidia only uses 1.

FYI, AMD has the same production issue with TMSC, low volume of chips because the plant cannot fabricate enough wafers per month to keep supplies satisfied.

and in the news in the last 10 hours
http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/windows/As-Radeon-GPU-Supply-Struggles-AMD-Chooses-New-Executive-Review-253422.shtml
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Poor yields are an unfortunate circumstance, not a business move. lol
No one chooses to have low yields.

When Nvidia and AMD use the same company to manufacture their GPUs, and Nvidia has much lower yields, what exactly would you call that? Poor business move in designing GPUs that have a greater chance of failure.


 



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When Nvidia and AMD use the same company to manufacture their GPUs, and Nvidia has much lower yields, what exactly would you call that? Poor business move in designing GPUs that have a greater chance of failure.

Your argument falls flat on one key problem.

AMD uses TWO chip fabricators, nvidia only uses 1.

FYI, AMD has the same production issue with TMSC, low volume of chips because the plant cannot fabricate enough wafers per month to keep supplies satisfied.

and in the news in the last 10 hours
http://www.softpedia.com/reviews/windows/As-Radeon-GPU-Supply-Struggles-AMD-Chooses-New-Executive-Review-253422.shtml


This is why all the 7970 are out of stock at the moment for about 4-5 weeks now.

 

 
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This is why all the 7970 are out of stock at the moment for about 4-5 weeks now.

I didn't have a single issue ordering one 10 minutes ago, lol. A quick google search and there's hundreds for sale online. AMD really kicked Nvidia in the nuts with this one. They got the lead in supply and it looks like Nvidia won't be able to catch up at least until late this year, early 2013 at this rate. By the time Nvidia can get enough product out to turn a profit, tons of 7970/7950/7770/7870/etc will have been sold. Regardless of the performance advantage of Kepler, I highly doub't it will be enough to get the 7970 owners to sell their cards after only having them for months.
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Pretty sure I am not waiting till Sept 2012 to get my hands on a NVIDIA card. If they want to drag their feet and cry like babies than maybe Ill just have to keep my loyalty to AMD.
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Same old Nvidia as ever, sigh. "We have a million design wins!", half of which never actually materialize, they've been planting leaks about how much faster their products are going to be than the current AMD series, all the while we have a repeat of Fermi/HD5*** series, AMD has the top product out for months before Nvidia can even get a competing card to market.
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This is why all the 7970 are out of stock at the moment for about 4-5 weeks now.

I didn't have a single issue ordering one 10 minutes ago, lol. A quick google search and there's hundreds for sale online. AMD really kicked Nvidia in the nuts with this one. They got the lead in supply and it looks like Nvidia won't be able to catch up at least until late this year, early 2013 at this rate. By the time Nvidia can get enough product out to turn a profit, tons of 7970/7950/7770/7870/etc will have been sold. Regardless of the performance advantage of Kepler, I highly doub't it will be enough to get the 7970 owners to sell their cards after only having them for months.


 

I was being picky. The Asus 7970 DirectCU II is out of stock for a long while =(.

 
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Same old Nvidia as ever, sigh. "We have a million design wins!", half of which never actually materialize, they've been planting leaks about how much faster their products are going to be than the current AMD series, all the while we have a repeat of Fermi/HD5*** series, AMD has the top product out for months before Nvidia can even get a competing card to market.

Somebody slap NVIDIA's CEO
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Somebody slap NVIDIA's CEO

I'd rather not, if i had a company i'd rather Jen be in charge, regardless of what some spread about him, the guy definitely knows how to keep a company's losses to a minimum. (even if it means cutting his and other top level management salaries to a dollar a day.)
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Same old Nvidia as ever, sigh. "We have a million design wins!", half of which never actually materialize, they've been planting leaks about how much faster their products are going to be than the current AMD series, all the while we have a repeat of Fermi/HD5*** series, AMD has the top product out for months before Nvidia can even get a competing card to market.

And then you used to wait 6 months for amd's drivers to catch up with the cards (Where nvidia's is usually catching up to the cpu's used with the cards)
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