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actually, I take that back, aint doing it... dont want to wear down my Agility 3 even if it is running like a potato.. anyway to speed it up?
I think that's probably just windows getting a bit long in the tooth. frown.gif Windows 7 is better than XP or earlier were... but it's still vulnerable to having the registry full of junk.
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post #42 of 67
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You're correct, it will not speed up your drive.. That's not the point of defragging... Its to prevent file corruption due to a heavily fragmented drive...

I don't think you fully understand what defragging and fragmentation is. Defragging moves the files together, and puts them on the fastest part of the HDD. This makes them faster to access because of how HDDs work. It has nothing to do with corruption. Defragging can remove some types of corruption because it moves files around, but that's not what it's designed for. You should of ran a chkdsk, not defragged. I think your SSD got faster because you had some problems going on with it that were fixed when it moved the files around. chkdsk would of been better for the drive and fixed the issues, if that was the problem.

Either way, you should never defrag an SSD.
Edited by Murlocke - 2/17/12 at 10:26am
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Auslogics disk defrag doesn't even defrag SSDs... it ignores them completely...
If you really feel like defragging an SSD, use MyDefrag as it has a special method for flash disks but I would argue against it completely if you would read DuckieHo's post. SSDs are supposed to fragment, that's how they equally wear out the NAND cells. Not only that but the OS doesn't actually see where the files are truly located.
Also, A+ doesn't mean anything. Pretty much everyone on this forum can easily get one. It's a $200-300 worthless piece of paper.

$356 to keep my job piece of paper. frown.gif
    
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I use Diskeeper which prevents fragmentation and also includes a module specifically for SSDs called Hyperfast.
Absolutely no fragmentation on my drives at any given time.
I use it at work on all of our servers and workstations as well and have noticed BIG performance gains with spinning drives.
Though I'm not exactly sure of the differences between the functionality for SSDs as opposed to HDDs, I'm sure it's all covered here:

http://www.diskeeper.com/home-use/diskeeper/hyperfast/overview/

Check it out for yourself with the Free 30 Day trial! thumb.gif

I'm not affiliated with Diskeeper in any way, nor am I being compensated in any way for the endorsement.
Just trying to share some info based on my personal experience using the product for about 5-6 years.
Edited by Jerm1970 - 2/17/12 at 10:26am
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I think that's probably just windows getting a bit long in the tooth. frown.gif Windows 7 is better than XP or earlier were... but it's still vulnerable to having the registry full of junk.

This Windows 7 install is no more than 2 months old :/ .. I dont believe in these "Regcleanup" applications that are scattered across the internet like cockroaches to dirty houses... any other recommendations to cleaning up the registry or making my windows 7 act more like its on a SSD and not a HDD?
 
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post #46 of 67
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This Windows 7 install is no more than 2 months old :/ .. I dont believe in these "Regcleanup" applications that are scattered across the internet like cockroaches to dirty houses... any other recommendations to cleaning up the registry or making my windows 7 act more like its on a SSD and not a HDD?

Have you tried Secure Erase?

http://www.ocztechnology.com/blog/?p=367
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Ya think? But that should never happen if its a SSD correct?, and it only happened because it was HEAVILY fragmented...

I'm not saying defrag your drive every week.. Maybe twice a year to keep it in check... Since SSD are becoming more and more the normal type drive, I've started to see more SSD's in systems when they come in for repairs..

Trust me, I was surprised to say the least...

When and if you start to have trouble with your SSD, and before you throw it in the garbage, defrag it once and see if you revive it... You'll be very surprised...
    
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wow, this is by far, the best burn i've read in this forum! you should know when to back down....
I don't doubt that the drive sped up, really.... I know the amount of complete CRAP windows makes.... incredible!
however.... four known members each told you a very valid argument!

Its still kinda mean to pick on you :/
I personally thank you for sharing your experience, but don't you think that defragging triggered something else that helped the drive recover?
anyways, don't let peoples arguments stop you from sharing knowledge! biggrin.gif

EDIT: I insanely HATE it when I take so long to reply that my argument becomes invalid and outdated U.U
EDIT2: LOOL! when I 'replied' the thread was only on page 1 with like 8 posts!
EDIT3: and you're STILL going at it! at least you've got spirit!
EDIT4: ok, I should really stop editing this post.. right?
Edited by NXZ-MEAD - 2/17/12 at 10:28am
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I don't think you fully understand what defragging and fragmentation is. Defragging moves the files together, and puts them on the fastest part of the HDD. It has nothing to do with corruption. You should of ran a chkdsk, not defragged. I think your SSD got faster because you had some problems going on with it that were fixed when it moved the files around. chkdsk would of been better for the drive and fixed the issues, if that was the problem.
Either way, you should never defrag an SSD.
DId you edit your post? It was different initially, I hit quote, and it was this in the reply?
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This Windows 7 install is no more than 2 months old :/ .. I dont believe in these "Regcleanup" applications that are scattered across the internet like cockroaches to dirty houses... any other recommendations to cleaning up the registry or making my windows 7 act more like its on a SSD and not a HDD?
Hm. On a HDD, the steady slowdown is noticeable for me over some months. Having said that, my ultraportable has an SSD in it, and is lightning fast - from hitting the power button to usable Windows desktop in <20 seconds, this is with an OCZ Solid 2, an Indilinx based drive. On the flip side, my Surround system has a Crucial C300 in it, and it's barely faster booting than with a HDD. It's faster in benchmarks, but doesn't really 'feel' faster when using it. frown.gif
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actually, I take that back, aint doing it... dont want to wear down my Agility 3 even if it is running like a potato.. anyway to speed it up?

Yes..Image your entire drive to an hdd..then secure-erase it..copy image back tongue.gif
 
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