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well then it doesnt make since to get a intell i dont want to be stuck with 4 cores. Because the piledrivers will be about 10% faster and ill get 6 or 8 cores

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1156 is getting the axe...or has it happened already? I don't believe any more 1156 will be produced...let alone new ones.
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well then it doesnt make since to get a intell i dont want to be stuck with 4 cores. Because the piledrivers will be about 10% faster and ill get 6 or 8 cores

I think you are mistaking the AMD statement that Piledriver is going to be a 10-15% performance improvement over Bulldozer...and whatever it was that was coming after Piledriver is supposed to be another 10-15% boost over Piledriver. Plus, I don't think there are many people suffering with only four cores and Intel has their plans for more cores as well. I think they knew it wasn't really going to be used by much of any one so they didn't make it a priority right now. AMD did make it more of a priority and it kind of back fired on them.
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Dude, do a little research.

It's already well known that Ive bridge will use the 1155 socket, which is the socket for SECOND generation Core i3/i5/i7, aka Sandy Bridge. The previous generation, still called Core i3/i5/i7, uses the 1156 socket, and is not compatible. There are some current motherboards built for sandy bridge that are designed to be ivy bridge compatible.

I also don't think you understand the concept of cores. What do you mean you don't want to be stuck on 4 cores? More cores is does not equal more performance. For applications that can take advantage of more cores, then it's great. The majority of applications don't need/use more than 4 cores as it is, and many don't use more than 2. If you have such a need, you have things like hyper threading and the SB-E hex core cpus. It's arguable that when a manufacturer makes a cpu with more cores, its worse, because that means they're just giving you more cores instead of improving their architecture/manufacturing process.

There is also a lot more to cpus than cores and clock speeds. You can't assume bulldozer/pile driver are better than sandy bridge/ivy bridge because they have more cores. In fact, bulldozer performs worse than comparable sandy bridge cpus in many applications. Its due to a different architecture, and bulldozer dropped the ball in that area.
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Dude, do a little research.

I also don't think you understand the concept of cores. What do you mean you don't want to be stuck on 4 cores? More cores is does not equal more performance. For applications that can take advantage of more cores, then it's great. The majority of applications don't need/use more than 4 cores as it is, and many don't use more than 2. If you have such a need, you have things like hyper threading and the SB-E hex core cpus. It's arguable that when a manufacturer makes a cpu with more cores, its worse, because that means they're just giving you more cores instead of improving their architecture/manufacturing process.

if the OP bother to type in ivy bridge into google and read for 30 seconds, he wouldn't be asking these questions right now lol wink.gif
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well then it doesnt make since to get a intell i dont want to be stuck with 4 cores. Because the piledrivers will be about 10% faster and ill get 6 or 8 cores

More core does NOT equal better performance. I honestly have no idea why you think 6 or 8 cores is better than quad core.
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Well im just saying in a year more programs are going to be using more cores, i rip a decent amount of video edit it and game, more cores would benefit me for some of those things. For ripping and encoding more cores are better. So like i said im stilled pulled between the two companies
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In a word to OP question. NO a thousand times NO! As Others have stated, A simple Google search will yield answers you seek. You can also use search function for the site to see if your question has been asked and answered prior to your decision to post it.
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so even for those things intel is better? I though amd was better for encoding.
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Well im just saying in a year more programs are going to be using more cores, i rip a decent amount of video edit it and game, more cores would benefit me for some of those things. For ripping and encoding more cores are better. So like i said im stilled pulled between the two companies

Ivy Bridge is refinement of Sandy Bridge, as such it will not have hexa-core or octo-core. For encoding Intel Quick Sync, found in Intel Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, is the fastest encoding. It beats both GPU acceleration and traditional CPU encoding. For traditional CPU encoding 2500K and 2600K hold the water pretty well. 2600K has HyperThread which mimics octo-core CPU. Bulldozer FX-81xx trades blow with i7-2600K when it comes to encoding, however FX-81xx is a 8 core CPU while i7-2600K is a 4 core CPU. This is the case where more core does not equal better performance.
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Well im just saying in a year more programs are going to be using more cores, i rip a decent amount of video edit it and game, more cores would benefit me for some of those things. For ripping and encoding more cores are better. So like i said im stilled pulled between the two companies

just because it has more cores doesn't mean it will be faster, a cpu with better architecture with 4cores (8threads) will be faster then a cpu with 8cores with weaker cores it has been proven with bulldozer compared to the i5 2500k (they take blows in different programs)
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