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I would suggest looking at the receiver's manual. I have an A6 3650 based HTPC and HDMI to my 1080P Samsumg TV. I haven't had an issue with the incorrect resolution displayed. See if you can take a screenshot and post it.
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post #12 of 18
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I have not yet read the Yamaha manual thoroughly but only scan through a few essential pages.  But here are some quick comments:-


1)  Is the diagram below showing your current connection, using the digital optical SPDIF output of the motherboard for audio?


What problem are you facing with?  What do you mean by 'won't carry all the tracks'?


2)  As the renaming trick works, I suggest reconnecting the Yamaha back into the equation.


See the diagram below. I think this is the simplest method and it should work.


The A75F-A's HDMI output should send out both video and audio signals.


3)  I suggest exhausting all options with your current hardware first before adding another graphics card into the picture.  



Okay I tried/evaluated both those options already:

1) S/PDIF: The maximum that an optical audio cable can handle is 5.1 surround sound and that too depending on the size and format of the bit stream. It would not be able to carry the bitstream in its entire-ity (for lack of a better word) and let the receiver decode it! So I would loose HD audio quality on many of the formats, especially for Blu-ray! Also my motherboard right now does not have a S/PDIF connector, it has a S/PDIF header and I would need to get a connector with a bracket to plug into it!

2) Connecting the AVR to HDMI3/DVI instead of HDMI1: The resolution while I said is full screen has a one pixel line on the left side of the screen while that is okay by me for my HTPC, it need not be there on the other devices which work fine on HDMI, hence I tried that and dropped it! Otherwise that would have been the easiest way to correct it, also I feel the picture quality is better on HDMI 1 and not the PC connection!

So since both these would not be the best solution possible that is why I decided to try the discrete card setup to transmit HD audio! Do you know whether that would work?
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I would suggest looking at the receiver's manual. I have an A6 3650 based HTPC and HDMI to my 1080P Samsumg TV. I haven't had an issue with the incorrect resolution displayed. See if you can take a screenshot and post it.

My Samsung is a DLP and after a lot of time spent researching on forums like this one, I believe it is a problem with DLP's! I have tried playing around with every setting on the AVR, TV and CCC (PC)! I have tried switching the AVR video processing off and making everything (aspect ratio, resolution) through, but no luck with all that!
Edited by Dad2David - 2/22/12 at 7:19am
 
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post #13 of 18

(1)  To get rid of the 1 pixel wide dark vertical line on the left edge of the TV screen, I suspect this is due to the screen image is not positioned perfectly. In other words, the entire image is shifted horizontally to the right by 1 pixel width. This also means you are seeing 1 pixel width less image on the right edge of the screen.

 

To rectify, simply shift it to the left by 1 pixel width.

page 29 user manual.JPG

 

Additionally, 'Just Scan' or 'Wide Fit' under Size in Picture Options as per page 28 of the Samsung TV User Manual might be tried if, by the rare chance, that the above method does not work.

 

 

(2)  Back to your idea of using a discrete graphics card:- (see diagram below)

htpc to yamaha to samsung - discrete card.JPG

 

I think it could work, at least theoretically.

 

One possible problem is the video and the audio signals are not in sync when you watch Blu-ray movies.

 

If this happens, I suppose you can try the Lipsync feature of the Yamaha (page 93 Yamaha manual). It is supposed to delay the audio output by 1ms increments.

 

 

post #14 of 18
windfire, awesome advice, thanks for the help. I have a very similar setup to dad2david and have been reading threads for several weeks on samsung dlps to eliminate overscan. great job!

Dad2david, I'm using a yamaha rxv663 and 56inch samsung dlp. I have a titanium hd soundcard and am transferring sound via an optical cable to the receiver (hdmi for video to the samsung). I can assure you there is absolutely no delay and it sounds great in 5.1. However, as you mentioned you cant do 7.1 via this method.

Also, i have the picture perfect on my screen now using windfire's suggestion of renaming hdmi 3 to pc and doing the following. Click p-size on the remote while on hdmi 3 (now renamed PC). First center the picture with the first 2 adjustment icons (horizontal and vertical). Then use the 3rd adjustment icon (on the right) to zoom. Readjust the horizontal and vertical inputs (1st and 2nd icons) if necessary.
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windfire, awesome advice, thanks for the help. I have a very similar setup to dad2david and have been reading threads for several weeks on samsung dlps to eliminate overscan. great job!
Dad2david, I'm using a yamaha rxv663 and 56inch samsung dlp. I have a titanium hd soundcard and am transferring sound via an optical cable to the receiver (hdmi for video to the samsung). I can assure you there is absolutely no delay and it sounds great in 5.1. However, as you mentioned you cant do 7.1 via this method.
Also, i have the picture perfect on my screen now using windfire's suggestion of renaming hdmi 3 to pc and doing the following. Click p-size on the remote while on hdmi 3 (now renamed PC). First center the picture with the first 2 adjustment icons (horizontal and vertical). Then use the 3rd adjustment icon (on the right) to zoom. Readjust the horizontal and vertical inputs (1st and 2nd icons) if necessary.

Thanks mlb426 and windfire!

I will play around with the picture size and try to eliminate that line on the left of the screen! Thanks for the help!

Just curious, if you have the screen image on HDMI3/DVI adjusted and the screen is perfectly filled, why not just switch the AVR's out put to HDMI 3 on the TV and leave the HTPC connected to the AVR via HDMI (for both audio and video) and you can avoid the S/PDIF (optical cable) hookup? Any reason why you did not leave it this way?
 
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Thanks mlb426 and windfire!
I will play around with the picture size and try to eliminate that line on the left of the screen! Thanks for the help!
Just curious, if you have the screen image on HDMI3/DVI adjusted and the screen is perfectly filled, why not just switch the AVR's out put to HDMI 3 on the TV and leave the HTPC connected to the AVR via HDMI (for both audio and video) and you can avoid the S/PDIF (optical cable) hookup? Any reason why you did not leave it this way?

Funny I never thought to try that I was so happy I got the screen correctly fit lol. I'll give that a shot tomorrow. However, Im not sure there is a way to get 5.1 with the titanium hd sound card without the optical cable. I'll mess around with it
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post #17 of 18
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Funny I never thought to try that I was so happy I got the screen correctly fit lol. I'll give that a shot tomorrow. However, Im not sure there is a way to get 5.1 with the titanium hd sound card without the optical cable. I'll mess around with it

Well if that works then you don't need the sound card actually, your on board HDMI should provide much better quality sound for both audio and video!

Sound cards actually only help in case you are using a 7.1 or 5.1 PC speaker setup with only analog inputs and no AVR in the daisy chain. Otherwise HDMI (any HDMI) is far superior both for bit streaming and for carrying all different types of formats, because the AVR takes over the processing and it definitely has a much better sound card (or processor) than your discrete one!

So you can shift the sound card to a different system without HDMI or resell the same! That is IMHO, most of the

I have got the discrete card - Sapphire Radeon HD 5450 - not bad for $25 (after MIR), but I haven't hooked it up yet, will do that probably tonight and give an update soon!
 
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Just an update - IT WORKS, and the setup was simple!

I used the card mentioned in the post above and hooked up the AVR and the TV separately using 2 HDMI cables and I was done! I had to switch the GPU from PCI-e to on-board in my mobo BIOS, becuse when you plug in a PCI-e GPU card the Mobo automatically switches your video out from the on-board to the ports on the card, which is not how I wanted it so I had to switch it to on-board there, and disable crossfire to ensure they both act as separate GPU's and not as one. Mine was already disabled, probably because the HD 5xxx series is not the right crossfire card for a A6 APU, I think it has to be a HD 6xxx card.

Anyways, long story short I did this and adjusted the screen size as windfire has detailed above, pretty straight forward, thanks again windfire (+rep) and now I have HD quality picture and sound from 2 different ports and I can use the 67" screen to surf or watch HULU web only videos smile.gif - which is pretty awesome! The picture is now completely filled on the screen and the sound is in 7.1 if your media supports it (eg; Blu-ray).

The only issue (not a big one, I can definitely live with it) - is that now the image on the screen is tilted upwards a bit (probably 1/10 of an inch). Which doesn't affect most of the stuff that I do, just when I go to close a page the part of the X sign at the top right is slightly cut off, anyone knows why?
 
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