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It's actually amps up to 330 ohms. I'd still go with the Xonar Essence STX. Don't forget to order some OpAmps and switch them out (LME49720NA, LME49860, LME49990).
Headphones: Ultrasone HFI-580. They sound awesome. Got mine on sale for $118. They are currently $136 @ B&H.
Speakers: The ones you have are fine. You won't really find anything that much better for below $200, unless its on sale.

im about to sound lke an idiot but, OpAmps?
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Operational Amplifiers. They change the sound signature that the sound card produces.

Check this thread out: http://www.head-fi.org/t/421890/the-xonar-essence-stx-q-a-tweaking-impressions-thread
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It's actually amps up to 330 ohms. I'd still go with the Xonar Essence STX. Don't forget to order some OpAmps and switch them out (LME49720NA, LME49860, LME49990).
Headphones: Ultrasone HFI-580. They sound awesome. Got mine on sale for $118. They are currently $136 @ B&H.
Speakers: The ones you have are fine. You won't really find anything that much better for below $200, unless its on sale.
Anything that you can plug in your headphones to and have audio play through them technically has a headphone amp afaik. The Titanium HD doesn't have dedicated headphone amp circuitry though, so I think people just call it a headphone "out" to avoid confusion with a dedicated amp.

Confirmation of no headphone amp: http://www.guru3d.com/article/sound-blaster-xfi-titanium-hd-review/3
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Oh, 600 dollars for all 3..hmm..

I would buy an external DAC for 250 that came with a speaker amp or a receiver, then I would buy Infinity Primus P153s for 150, then I would spend 200 dollars on AD900s for gaming. Use the speakers for music, headphones for gaming. If you want your headphones to be more versatile buy...Ultrasone Pro 550s and now you have 300 dollars for a receiver/ext. DAC or.. you could try to score some Beyer DT 990s but...up to you...
Edited by Simca - 2/20/12 at 9:27am
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I am thinking of building a amp or something like they do over on head-fi, if i do that should i even bother with a sound card?
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I am thinking of building a amp or something like they do over on head-fi, if i do that should i even bother with a sound card?

DAC and amp are 2 completely different entities. DAC will give you sound quality/clarity. An amp will allow you to drive the higher impedance headphones.

An external DAC often times combines both of those into one. A receiver sometimes does that as well.

If you go passive speaker you need a speaker amp though and finding an external DAC with a speaker amp isn't very easy.

So while I do recommend you build your own amp if you have the ability to do so, just keep in mind you would need a DAC as well.
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DAC and amp are 2 completely different entities. DAC will give you sound quality/clarity. An amp will allow you to drive the higher impedance headphones.
An external DAC often times combines both of those into one. A receiver sometimes does that as well.
If you go passive speaker you need a speaker amp though and finding an external DAC with a speaker amp isn't very easy.
So while I do recommend you build your own amp if you have the ability to do so, just keep in mind you would need a DAC as well.

yeah i would be building a dac, i dont have any quality headphones atm, jsut a pair of turtbke beach usb *gag*. so that s a definate must. i havent built any of the cmoy or anything yet so a dac would be a month or so away while i learn. my gf however knows electrical fairly well so she could help. i typically use my speakers for gaming and the headphones for music at night. i know i need new heeadphones, i dont fps on the computer so im not that worried about positional sound when picking a set of headphones.

so a few questions, should i get the stx or no? i am leaning towards no and building an external dac, as i think i will get better sound from it.
what headphones in the 200 dollar range would you suggest for a 70% music user. i listen to pretty much everything, electronic/techno,country,rock,pop,metal.
i also think i will keep my klipsch for now and focus on a dac.
sumic, can a dac be a hadphone amp and a speaker amp? to get the both out of both worlds without giving up sound quality? i figure a soundcard/dac or whatever i go with will improve my speakers aswell over onboard sound. I also assume i will see a night and day difference in a true quality set of phones/cans over the usb turtles.
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$600 for all eh..


Creative Titanium HD ($139.88 including $10 rebate)

http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Blaster-Titanium-Internal-SB1270/dp/tags-on-product/B0041OUA38

+ JDSLabs O2 amp ($156 including North American adapter)

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=O2Full

+ beyerdynamic DT880 600ohm ($309)

http://www.amazon.com/Beyer-Dynamic-Premium-600-Headphones/dp/B0024NK35S

Total: $605 for a very good setup indeed.
You'll need a 2 RCA to 3.5mm cable but that's sub $5. Easily worth the extra $10.
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$600 for all eh..


Creative Titanium HD ($139.88 including $10 rebate)

http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Blaster-Titanium-Internal-SB1270/dp/tags-on-product/B0041OUA38

+ JDSLabs O2 amp ($156 including North American adapter)

http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=O2Full

+ beyerdynamic DT880 600ohm ($309)

http://www.amazon.com/Beyer-Dynamic-Premium-600-Headphones/dp/B0024NK35S

Total: $605 for a very good setup indeed.
You'll need a 2 RCA to 3.5mm cable but that's sub $5. Easily worth the extra $10.

Where's his speakers you scrub tongue.gif

I know what you're going to say. Putting the money into proper headphones will be better than having meh speakers and meh headphones.

Still, the OP wants what he wants and I also don't think going with the speakers I listed are a bad way to go.

As for the OP, which headphones should you get? I would try to find a store that will let you listen to some headphones before buying them like guitar center or something.

I like the Grado SR225i. They sound great to me. I listen to a lot of alternative rock and whatnot. Makes for a good match. Those can easily be found under 200, especially used on headfi.

Umm..hmm.. The..Ultrasone Pro 750s can sometimes be found for under 200 used. I know the Denon D2000s were/are going for 200-210, but would definitely benefit from an amplifier.

Food for thought. You should definitely give them a try if you can though. They all sound different.
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