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That's like saying one pillow suits all, or one pair of jeans fits all. Illogical post is illogical.

Yea ikr, but tbph with you you're limited to adjusting to the mouse or going out and finding one thats the 'perfect fit'.Theres a reason the g500 upwards have adjustable dpi ect. its so people can tweak it more to your liking. If you can't find it within the devices range then there nothing more other people can do to help, its up to you whether you can use it or not.
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@SpartanVXL
Agree pretty much. I have a G9X and a G500 and I don't have any of the problems the OP is talking about. IIRC they both have the same sensor too. Oh and the G500 is a highly suggested mouse here... Must be something else causing the problem because pretty much everyone and their mother has a G500 and likes it.

The G500 is actually not recommended due to the sensors acceleration, especially in the mice section. Take a look at other threads in this section.
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The location of the sensor should not matter unless you move the mouse half-over the edge of your tracking surface. Yes I know they use different sensors but with tweaks to the DPI there is neglible difference to tracking unless you use a ridiculouly high sensitivity. Afaik the OP sounds like a low sens person, the tracking should have no effect on him apart from the angle snapping/smoothing effect that can be disabled. For his habit, as i've explained previously, unless his "lift" is sub 2mm there should be no problem.

The sensor position matters a lot, as many others have noted. Having it in the center for whatever reason just feels "right".

EDIT: Also the acceleration issue will be even more noticeable with a lower sensitivity.

@OP

I'm guessing you're using a cloth pad? I suggest cleaning off your cloth pad, or to get a hard pad as the AVAGO 9500 sensor performs optimal paired up with one.
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The location of the sensor should not matter unless you move the mouse half-over the edge of your tracking surface. Yes I know they use different sensors but with tweaks to the DPI there is neglible difference to tracking unless you use a ridiculouly high sensitivity. Afaik the OP sounds like a low sens person, the tracking should have no effect on him apart from the angle snapping/smoothing effect that can be disabled. For his habit, as i've explained previously, unless his "lift" is sub 2mm there should be no problem.



Yes, the sensor position dose matter alot. Pick a mouse, and move the sensor up or down an inch or two and it will change out you have to move your hand.wrist or arm to get the same movement out of it. unless you hold your mouse perfectly squar and move your entire arm... Some people might not be botherd by it, but it dose change the physics of operating the mouse.
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Yes, the sensor position dose matter alot. Pick a mouse, and move the sensor up or down an inch or two and it will change out you have to move your hand.wrist or arm to get the same movement out of it. unless you hold your mouse perfectly squar and move your entire arm... Some people might not be botherd by it, but it dose change the physics of operating the mouse.

Can somebody explain how sensor location changes anything? As long as the sensor is attached properly to the mouse you can use the mouse upside down and it will still operate the same (albeit reversing user input)
I have a old philips mouse as well as a logitech mini-mouse from some other era which both have the sensor in the middle, whereas the g500 and g9x have theirs slightly to side. There is no dicernable difference in operating either of them in comparison with the newer ones. The sensor will move according to how the mouse is moved by the user unlike ball mice.
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preference

My personal settings for my g9x are at the max 5700 dpi and windows 6, all i do to get from one side of the screen to the other is slowly putting pressure on either side of the claw grip or rolling the mouse forward and back between thumb and the opposite two fingers. If i'm on my mates setup then ill rest my wrist and do a normal claw. This method probably exempts me from realising what the op is experiencing but as posted before its all up to the user
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Can somebody explain how sensor location changes anything? As long as the sensor is attached properly to the mouse you can use the mouse upside down and it will still operate the same (albeit reversing user input)
I have a old philips mouse as well as a logitech mini-mouse from some other era which both have the sensor in the middle, whereas the g500 and g9x have theirs slightly to side. There is no dicernable difference in operating either of them in comparison with the newer ones. The sensor will move according to how the mouse is moved by the user unlike ball mice.
My personal settings for my g9x are at the max 5700 dpi and windows 6, all i do to get from one side of the screen to the other is slowly putting pressure on either side of the claw grip or rolling the mouse forward and back between thumb and the opposite two fingers. If i'm on my mates setup then ill rest my wrist and do a normal claw. This method probably exempts me from realising what the op is experiencing but as posted before its all up to the user

You have answered your own question about how the location matters. It change's how the user must manipulate said mouse. This might not bother some people. for me it was a deal breaker, the sensor in the G500 with the location errked me. I could not get used to using it. Help me back in FPS game's. Most people wont be bothered by it, just as most people don't even know what Prediction, Acceleration or acceleration are.


Out side of personal preference(sensor location and type, mouse size and all that jaz) there is only one defect with the G500. The switch's used in the right and left click are prone to failure. Google "Logitech left click wont work" and you can see for your self. outside of that its all personal preference.
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Just came to add from experience of having the G500 for over a year now, after coming from: 2 Logitech G5 mice, 2 Logitech G9 mice, 1 Microsoft Sidewinder mouse, 2 Razer Lachesis mice, and 1 Death Adder mouse, and now my second G500.

The Logitech mice, I've loved, and the reason for going through so many have been primarily my fault as they get damaged in one way or another. The two G9s I bought refurbished for $50 each and the first one I knocked off my desk to the concrete floor (3 1/2 ft drop) and it screwed up the left click and middle mouse button, so I bought another. The second one... I got a little too 'aggressive' with during an FPS gaming session. The Sidewinder I just never liked -- too bulky, but I loved the thumb buttons. The Razers, didn't care for 'em. They both felt too light, and the Lachesis was absolute crap for me. I bought the G500, and have absolutely loved every second of it. I love the shape, and I love the thumb buttons (the Razers, I would hit the thumb buttons when I picked my mouse up).

I use a SteelSeries QcK mousepad (cloth), and I have had ZERO problems with the sensor on it. The Razer Lachesis gave me nothing but problems on that pad (and any other pad). I pick my mouse up constantly (I have the medium-sized QcK pad, like a 15x10 or whatever it is and I only use about 1/3 of it when gaming). Tracking stops at about 1mm above the surface and I have never had tracking problems using the mouse, never had acceleration issues (it moves when I want it to, and any supposed acceleration being present has ever impacted my use at all -- if it's there, it's so incredibly minute that it's not noticeable unless you try to find it), and it tracks the exact same to me as the G5 and the G9, as well as just other generic Logitech mice I've used (like the one on my girlfriend's computer, which I'm typing this on). The point I'm getting at, is there are one of two things happening here: The jittery, unpredictable and uncontrollable mouse movements is either the result of a single, faulty mouse (meaning go get a replacement) or you so incredibly observant that it's borderline obsessive, and not many mice would suit your needs.

And yes, I've used many optical mice as well. Outside of the DA, I only listed the laser mice I've used. I use my G500 for gaming, as well as my architecture schooling with 3D modeling, and extensive Adobe Suite work (Photoshop, Illustrator, InDesign, etc.) I can appreciate a responsive, controllable, accurate mouse, and the G500 - in my experience - is as accurate as they come. At the time I was needing a replacement (before the G500), the G500 was the most recommended mouse on this site outside of the Death Adder (which I don't care for - I need my buttons)...
Edited by Maian - 2/18/12 at 12:34am
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Adding all six 4.5g weights seemed to help with the jitteriness when I pick the mouse up, but it becomes very uncomfortable after a while. My ring finger gets sore and the thumb grip starts to feel very slippery (probably caused by the textured surface). I suppose I'd be able to get used to the mouse if it weren't for the discomfort. I decided to exchange this mouse for a G400. Thanks for all the insight, guys smile.gif
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Adding all six 4.5g weights seemed to help with the jitteriness when I pick the mouse up, but it becomes very uncomfortable after a while. My ring finger gets sore and the thumb grip starts to feel very slippery (probably caused by the textured surface). I suppose I'd be able to get used to the mouse if it weren't for the discomfort. I decided to exchange this mouse for a G400. Thanks for all the insight, guys smile.gif

Glad to see that you're happy at the end of the day!
I suggest G400 for anyone in general. Due to features and price! Same reason as why i suggest a Hyper 212+/Evo to anyone in general. (Well, anyone that can fit it in) tongue.gif
 
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Adding all six 4.5g weights seemed to help with the jitteriness when I pick the mouse up, but it becomes very uncomfortable after a while. My ring finger gets sore and the thumb grip starts to feel very slippery (probably caused by the textured surface). I suppose I'd be able to get used to the mouse if it weren't for the discomfort. I decided to exchange this mouse for a G400. Thanks for all the insight, guys smile.gif

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