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Originally Posted by FuNkDrSpOt 
Sorry but no. A vote for Steam isn't a vote for Origin. In fact you can see this by noticing all the other current DD providers and noticing not one of them tracks you like Origin does.
Sorry but no. A vote for Steam isn't a vote for Origin. In fact you can see this by noticing all the other current DD providers and noticing not one of them tracks you like Origin does.
I was responding to a post where the user was saying that he/she does not want his game library fragmented throughout different services and would prefer if everything was on steam. I countered by saying that by using steam he's encouraging other companies to try the DD market. How you turned this into the whole 'Origin steals all your info!' argument of why it's not acceptable is beyond me. It wasn't even remotely related the question at hand.
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Originally Posted by FuNkDrSpOt
why
If its in the eula, you can expect them to use it at some point. Ironically, whe that finally happens then your next argumnt will probably be how its the user fault for agreeing to the eula.
I don't ever remembr seeing when steam scanned those same file and I've read through nearly every Origin debate. plus origin states what they can do in the eula whereas steam sets pretty firm terms about not selling your info
why
If its in the eula, you can expect them to use it at some point. Ironically, whe that finally happens then your next argumnt will probably be how its the user fault for agreeing to the eula.
I don't ever remembr seeing when steam scanned those same file and I've read through nearly every Origin debate. plus origin states what they can do in the eula whereas steam sets pretty firm terms about not selling your info
Have you even read the Origin EULA?
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2. Consent to Collection and Use of Data.
EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and
shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly.
Information about our customers is an important part of our business, and EA
would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it
ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines. We and agents acting
on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your
consent, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to
enforce EA’s legal rights.
In addition to information that you give EA directly, EA collects nonpersonally identifiable (or anonymous) information for purposes of improving our
products and services, providing services to you, facilitating the provision of
software updates, dynamically served content and product support as well as
communicating with you. The non-personally identifiable information that EA
collects includes technical and related information that identifies your computer
(including the Internet Protocol Address) and operating system, as well as
information about your Application usage (including but not limited to successful
installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.
As noted above, this information is gathered periodically for purposes such as
improving our products and services, troubleshooting bugs, and otherwise
enhancing your user experience.
EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and
shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly.
Information about our customers is an important part of our business, and EA
would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it
ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines. We and agents acting
on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your
consent, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to
enforce EA’s legal rights.
In addition to information that you give EA directly, EA collects nonpersonally identifiable (or anonymous) information for purposes of improving our
products and services, providing services to you, facilitating the provision of
software updates, dynamically served content and product support as well as
communicating with you. The non-personally identifiable information that EA
collects includes technical and related information that identifies your computer
(including the Internet Protocol Address) and operating system, as well as
information about your Application usage (including but not limited to successful
installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware.
As noted above, this information is gathered periodically for purposes such as
improving our products and services, troubleshooting bugs, and otherwise
enhancing your user experience.
Link to eula
Where do you see the parts about selling your info? because there are no such claims in that document.
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| FX 8320 | 8x Celeron 352 | i7 3930K | CVF, commando, 2x RIVE |
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, "Game is currently unavailable" error messages, connectivity issues and piss poor download speeds during sales and promotions, Steamworks multiplayer games unplayable during downtime, etc etc etc. The list goes on and on.
