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Hey guys, building a system and just got in my new parts from 2 different vendors. Was going over each part and got a little uncomfortable with what my GPU and CPU blocks look like. I have no watercooling experience yet, so this may be nothing at all. Let me know what you think, want some opinions before I contact the vendor.

This one is minor, its the inside of my Raystorm block. A lot of the channels are lined with black stuff, probably just residue from manufacturing, but I wanted to make sure and see what you guys think. Looks easy enough to clean.

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This next block is the one that looks kinda beat up to me. Its a new Swiftech MCW82 block. The quality of the countersunk holes is crap, but doesn't look like it would affect seal or operation. The GPU mating surface has a small, but deep, scratch on it. Deep enough to catch your fingernail on. Has a smaller scratch perpendicular to the first, not deep though.

On the inside though, the micro pins have some of the same black residue in them, again is this normal? Almost the whole surface just has a dirty look to it, but I know that's probably just the exposed copper and easily restored. There is also a specific section of pins that is raised and you can easily feel it with your finger, it's higher than the rest.

The first picture, blue circles are around the heavy black deposits, yellow circles are around the only clean looking sections, and the big red oval is around the entire row that is raised from the rest. The rest of the pictures are just for extra detail.

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ermm..i cleaned my raystorm block earlier today..big fun with the plate..it slipped when i was screwing it back in..plugged in my pump for the 2-minute test..and water shot all over the parquet for a second
Oh..back to relevance to cleaning biggrin.gif
i used an old toothbrush with the bristles cut in half..coat the block with baking soda..
then spray vinegar on it (white distilled) let work for a bit..then scrub
rinse clean (i use the "jet" on outside hose)
 
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Both blocks are typical of what I've seen come off our shelf and there is not a thing that will negatively impact the performance of either product in your pictures.
I've even had an RMA for a very small amount of "black stuff" on a raystorm which is either residue from XSPC's cutting process or plain oxidation. Something that none of us can prevent without a lacquer or similar coating on the copper.

You use a toothbrush on the MCW82 pins and you will flatten or break them, resulting in worse performance.
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Originally Posted by Schmuckley View Post

ermm..i cleaned my raystorm block earlier today..big fun with the plate..it slipped when i was screwing it back in..plugged in my pump for the 2-minute test..and water shot all over the parquet for a second
Oh..back to relevance to cleaning biggrin.gif
i used an old toothbrush with the bristles cut in half..coat the block with baking soda..
then spray vinegar on it (white distilled) let work for a bit..then scrub
rinse clean (i use the "jet" on outside hose)

Thanks for the tips, but yea the MCW82 pins do look a bit too fragile for a toothbrush I guess. Probably just going to try soaking it for a bit and rinse with distilled.
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Both blocks are typical of what I've seen come off our shelf and there is not a thing that will negatively impact the performance of either product in your pictures.
I've even had an RMA for a very small amount of "black stuff" on a raystorm which is either residue from XSPC's cutting process or plain oxidation. Something that none of us can prevent without a lacquer or similar coating on the copper.
You use a toothbrush on the MCW82 pins and you will flatten or break them, resulting in worse performance.

Thanks for the reply, I don't have much experience with water cooling so I wasn't sure what to expect. The black stuff on the blocks isn't a big deal because I know I can clean that, it was the crappy countersunk holes, raised section of pins, and surface scratch that concerned me. Anyway these blocks weren't from your shop, I have no complaints about the XSPC rads or YL fans you sent me thumb.gif
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Any other opinions on the mcw82, a far as workmanship?
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I think you a slightly over reacting. Both blocks look better than my mcr82 and ek supreme hf. Mine came with some of the pins completely missing. If you were unaware, those pins are what is left over from a whole lot of back and forth cuts to copper, which is a very soft metal. Its not going to be an exact process, and the take for having slightly off pins, is going to give you much better temps than another material would.

I'd suggest you either get satisfied with the blocks themselves, or return them if you still can, as you have tampered with them now, and may not be returnable.
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Yeah, the pins are not really anything to worry about but those screw holes do look like somebody at the factory is getting lazy. At least you can't see it from the front.
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I only ask because of my lack of experience, not really being picky. I really just don't know any better is all.

Thanks for the replies!
Edited by xxmastermindxx - 2/18/12 at 5:35pm
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