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I am trying to talk myself into buying a really decent pair of ram. I want extreme timings for my ram. Im getting the P5W DH Deluxe mobo with the thermaltake armor w/ 25cm side fan. The sticks im thinkin of getting are these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231077 Will they help the speed of the computer compaired to there 300$$ counterparts? If I overclock my processor can i go passed 1066 speed? The reason i ask is because the mobo says it accepts 800/1066 speed. Will this be a problem?
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Well... the superpi record is still held by the DDR2 800 $300 kit. So I guess that will do just fine

Do remember that the 1:1 divider is at DDR2 533 speeds (stock), thus you'll need an FSP of 533MHz to hit DDR2 1066 speeds on a 1:1 divider. You can of course set the RAM on a divider advantageous to the RAM (thus on DDR2 667 at stock or so). The DDR2 800 kit should be able to hit close or a bit over DDR2 1066 speeds....

You have an E6600, and with a multi of 9 I don't expect your FSB to go that high. I'd save the money.
    
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Nah!, that's too much $$$.

Just like Chozart says, get the $300 G.Skill DDR2 800 kit and you're be doing DDR2 1000 with a 4-4-4-8 @ 2.2v.

But if you have the cash for them? Go for it.
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So what kind of peformance would i get out of the 2? How would it affect games?
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Performance would be awesome in either case. Personally, I would be surprised to see a whole lot of difference between the two kits. With an E6600, you can run the RAM at DDR2 667 speeds anyways (which is faster than the CPU). I don't think any increase in RAM speed relative to the CPU will improve performance (RAM can only handle CPU instructions as fast as the CPU delivers them).

Imagine: you get your CPU to run at 3.6 GHz (thus and FSB of 400MHz). Your RAM will run at DDR2 667 speed (stock) and the effective speed will be 400/266 x 667 = DDR2 1003 speeds. As Nasgul says from experience, that's a speed attainable with the DDR2 800 kit.
    
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Chozart where are u getting the 667? my ram (stock) runs at 800.
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Yeah, but you want to overclock! Thus, running at 800 stock won't do when yuo overclock. Let's say, again, an FSB of 400MHz (CPU=3.6GHz). If you set your RAM at DDR2 800 speeds, it'll run effectively at 400/266 x 800 = DDR 1200 speeds. Too fast for DDR2 800. Thus, like with any high-speed RAM, you knock the speed at stock down (i.e. put the RAM on a divider).

Not again, the 1:1 divider for Core 2 Duo is DDR2 533 speeds.
    
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What divider would i use to get 667 speeds?
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That would be a 5:6 divider (in favor of the RAM). 1:1 is DDR2 533, thus 5:6 will result in 533/5x6 = DDR2 667 speeds (a little rounding)

Generally, you can simply set the RAM to DDR2 667 speeds in your BIOS (depends on the motherboard/BIOS how it exactly works)
    
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Originally Posted by Chozart
That would be a 5:6 divider (in favor of the RAM). 1:1 is DDR2 533, thus 5:6 will result in 533/5x6 = DDR2 667 speeds (a little rounding)

Generally, you can simply set the RAM to DDR2 667 speeds in your BIOS (depends on the motherboard/BIOS how it exactly works)
I'm a bit confused here 'bout "correct" RAM for C2D.
A thread somewhere left the impression, that where AMD generally benefits most from the timings as opposed to frequency, it's the other way around, generally, with Intel.
The question is if there's enough benefit from the 8800 Dominator RAM 4-4-4-12-2T at 2.4 (from corsair sales pitch), to legitimize thier price over e.g. Dominator PC2-6400 at CL3.
It's on the P5W64-WS which seems pretty capable (<- with a Mach2) but all this divider stuff says that there's no reason for chosing the MHz impressive Dominator PC2-8800 over lower cas PC2-6400?
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