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Originally Posted by cuad View Post

I'm trying to be funny by pretending that I'm shocked that someone doesn't hear a difference between his ALC889 or better and a sound card.
Dear OP, you don't hear a difference because there is none.

Let's just forget about personal preference for a moment and forget about audiophile testimony. Let's forget about all the technology that companies put into making better sound equipment. Tell me, how do you refute the data after testing audio equipment in accuracy of reproduction? How do you refute listening to Skullcandy and then putting on AKG Q701's? You do know that THX qualification isn't a bunch of guys sitting in a room raving about how good speakers are, right? It's done scientifically. One of two things probably holds true for you, if not both. Firstly, maybe you just don't have the ears for it. I know people who can't tell the difference between their old tube TV compared to an HDTV with HD content. Or secondly, you've never actually had good equipment to compare. Either way, it's your opinion and just because you can't tell the difference doesn't mean there isn't one. Consider yourself lucky then. I'd save a lot of money if I could stand the cheap stuff.
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post #22 of 43
Just because you didn't notice a difference doesn't mean it isn't there.

I personally noticed a pretty sizable difference between the onboard of my P6T and the Xonar DX I'm using with the use of my JVC RX-900 headphones.
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Maybe you're just using jacked up settings like all the other people on this forum who hype up their sound cards.
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Originally Posted by Maian View Post

Just because you didn't notice a difference doesn't mean it isn't there.
we should pay an extra hundred bucks to creative because they can put a squiggly line somewhere new in RMAA rather than make an actual audible difference.
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How do you refute listening to Skullcandy and then putting on AKG Q701's?

A lot of junk in your post. I will only respond to this: I don't.
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Originally Posted by Cha0s_Cha0 View Post

secondly, you've never actually had good equipment to compare.
Actually, I love this part also. I've had two Xonar Essence STXs and a pair of DT 990s. What's the ratio of people who have better set ups than that to the people who don't? If I haven't had good enough equipment, then most people never will, so...?
Edited by cuad - 2/18/12 at 1:27am
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A headphone is a device that is usually worn on your head and produces sound in close proximity to your ears. Can you explain how a headphone can be "bad" for gaming?

Lack of sound stage would result in the headphones bad for gaming. On the other hand this would only really be a issue in FPS, any other types of games and you would be fine.
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Maybe you're just using jacked up settings like all the other people on this forum who hype up their sound cards.

Says sound card doesn't matter... uses $40 headphones rolleyes.gif
     
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post #26 of 43
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Says sound card doesn't matter... uses $40 headphones rolleyes.gif

cuad made a similar brilliant comment in another thread and my response was this:
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Says's the guy who uses Realtek on board sound and a 40$ set of headphones... tongue.gif

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post #27 of 43
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I have cheap portable cans so it is no wonder that I do not see an improvement from the sound card.

Keeping on the topic...

I was dealing with the same thoughts as you in this thread: http://www.overclock.net/t/974786/edit-are-my-headphones-really-so-bad where I ask:
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Are my headphones really so bad that they can be maxed out by onboard sound?

I have both my onboard sound and Essence STX hooked up and running. I'm switching my pair of headphones (JVC HA-RX700s) between the cards and listening to difference in music and positional audio in games.

There is none.

That must mean that the Realtek ALC889 is "maxing the headphones out" in the same way an HD 5770 will max out Call of Duty 4. So, up to what headphones could a Realtek ALC889 max out? Could they max AD700s?

So I bought AD700s. Later I bought DT 990s. And it turned out that I didn't hear any difference because there was none, because no matter what head phone I used, they sounded exactly the same plugged into my ALC889 as in my STX, or Titanium HD, or FiiO e7 or whatever.
Edited by cuad - 2/18/12 at 1:12am
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post #28 of 43
if its closed back you need the dt770s are the best i have ever owned. for gaming they are excellent. of course open would be better but the dt770s will still have an excellent soundstage and awesome bass.
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http://www.head-fi.org/a/fostex-t50rp-modification-summary-links-wiki

I advise trying out the fostex t50-rps, they're a little less expensive than your budget, but with modifications can sound very good and I recommend them only on the basis of their modifications.
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post #30 of 43
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How many times do you people need to see this before you accept it?

The main problem I have with you Cuad is that for every person like you there is a dozen or more people like this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1215433/to-those-debating-on-a-soundcard-heres-my-first-experience-using-one/0_50

I have experienced onboard vs soundcard before at a friends house (they only had onboard) and the sound was surprisingly muddy and different in a bad way (not sure if realtek), and if you listened to those two you would be able to tell the difference every time and although you don't have the benefit of personal experience, between specifically his on-board, and my STX, you would be able too as well, regardless of any other setup.

I always feel like this when arguing with someone on the internet: http://xkcd.com/386/

EDIT: Forgot I'd already posted in this thread rolleyes.gif
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