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Before all of you start throwing stones you better take a hard look at your sig rigs...bunch of hypocrites.

oh im sorry. Are you the one who thinks all technology should seize to exist by radical thinking then actually make these issues known. Thanks for trying to stop progress! thumb.gif

Look at the bad conditions where your beloved products come from but you don't care. yuck.
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Before all of you start throwing stones you better take a hard look at your sig rigs...bunch of hypocrites.

What about them? ASRock/ASUS/most other motherboard manufacturers are based in Taiwan. Taiwan has "minimum" wage laws, or a set "basic" wage. The basic wage is NT$17,880 per month which is roughly $600.
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Why is there a high number of employee suicides?

You know I hate to defend Foxconn here but they do employ well over 100,000 persons and when you look at the actual percentage of suicides it is LOWER than the population at large in China. So you could say they have had less suicides.
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Shouldn't you compare it with other factories?

Yes.

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Apple’s factories have been the subject of petitions and protests in the United States and elsewhere based on concerns about safety conditions and in the wake of a high number of employee suicides.

It's hilarious, how us Americans have nothing better to do than complain about how factories are being run on the other side of the world. Seriously, some people just need to get a boot to the mouth.

Careful...Some day you may be Spartacus.

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Before all of you start throwing stones you better take a hard look at your sig rigs...bunch of hypocrites.

A valid point...however, the Apple brand appears to promote itself as more conscientious (whatever that means) than (e.g.) Asus or Dell.

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Before all of you start throwing stones you better take a hard look at your sig rigs...bunch of hypocrites.

oh im sorry. Are you the one who thinks all technology should seize to exist by radical thinking then actually make these issues known. Thanks for trying to stop progress! thumb.gif

Progress and innovation don't require cannibalism.
Edited by seward - 2/20/12 at 12:01am
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If you want to take that a step further. Current personnel on Apple's board of Directors.
Albert Gore, Jr.
Former Vice President of the United States
Robert A. Iger
President and Chief Executive Officer
The Walt Disney Company


this pretty much sums it up. this show is going to be pure damage-control.
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Looks like a lot of reports are rolling in now, ABC found out some pretty nasty stuff, like kids working there... oh boy!
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Looks like a lot of reports are rolling in now, ABC found out some pretty nasty stuff, like kids working there... oh boy!

Crap... I missed it. Was it really that bad?
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I dont find it funny what so ever. I would like to see these products built here on our soil honestly and would have absolutely no problem with paying a higher fee to acquire them. Though as a working man and coming from a working family it is ridiculous to see working people subject to such treatment regardless of their nationality or employment location.
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Ironic that us Americans have lost entire work sectors to the East, Far East , & South America's with millions of jobs. that said, what in your home is not made elsewhere? What was made in America?, Just you?
We pay attention to work in countries where our US "Company leaders" get the most bang for their buck, pun intended. It's not exactly slavery in most publicized cases, but there are tons of workers making products destined for the US under conditions that would be illegal in the US.
Is it hilarious, if you were actually to know, and be made aware that the phone you have next to your head was made by a jumper? Hilarious indeed /sarcasm. This subject is far larger than this one news event so i'll leave out further commentary. Makes me get vocal madsmiley.png as a military vet I care about this sick country hell bent on self destruction.
For your comment, "nothing better to do"...um yes you are correct, as the jobs went >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that way.

TL;DR?

If someone in China was willing to build your phone for a cent to every dollar it would cost someone in America to build and you didn't accept that deal you're a bad business man.

That's not my problem. thumb.gif

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Um, I kinda hop this isn't a serious post. Quite frankly, I find it deplorable that not many more actually give a damn about the folks busting their asses probably working harder than we are for pennies an hour. I mean how dare I give a crap another human being? I should focus in more inward towards myself like a pompous ****.
I work 40+ hours a week and when something isn't going as it should, I make sure someone knows about it. I don't expect to be mistreated at work and no one else should. Sorry but if you want to get on Americans for complaining, go to California and yell at the idiots there constantly wanting something outrageous.

I guess this is too hard for you guys to understand, but none of this is about changing the conditions of a company on the other side of the world. These news reports are just there to take a stab at companies like Apple. You honestly think they care one bit about changing the situation?

Also, I wonder what the suicide rate is at the company that builds suicide nets. Do they have their own suicide nets? What is there hourly rate?

By all means, if you can do something to alter the situation bring it up with whoever you need to. But none of this is going to change the way outsourcing works. It's economics. Until China makes minimum wage laws like us, or stops allowing U.S and Japanese companies to use their workers (stop pumping money in to the Chinese economy) things will not change. And those things will not change either. It's the way the world works. Doesn't mean it's right.
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