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With the boards available and fry's microcenter' and comp usa, even though the athlon is a 95W cpu I would rather not take a chance with an MSI board. with most of them being 3+1 phase board and of cheap quality I rather avoid a possible headache.
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Originally Posted by mwl5apv View Post

With the boards available and fry's microcenter' and comp usa, even though the athlon is a 95W cpu I would rather not take a chance with an MSI board. with most of them being 3+1 phase board and of cheap quality I rather avoid a possible headache.

Really you should be fine :/ and if the board does die MSI's RMA is very fast
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http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0382894

what about that board? According to the AMD Motherboard VRM information list. in the AMD mobo section this board is good to go. ASRock dependable? Ive never used their boards.
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Why not go with something like this for CPU and motherboard?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.830598
Then get a cheap HD6850 for the gpu
You should be fine with 500w
Running everything at stock I could run my 2500k and 6870 with a Antec 430w


APU and not using the graphics? Waste.

 

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If you are going to get an MSI 3+1 phase board you should not be running anything more than a 95W processor at stock speed with stock cooler/I might not even recommend that due to the quality and VRM failure issues on such boards even with 95W processors.

If the board does die, what if the CPU or PSU dies too?  Then you have 2x or more problem.

 

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I'm not a fan of the PSU choice at all.

Get this: OCZ ZS 550W

It is better in EVERY SINGLE WAY over the CX 600 V2 for a lower price than the after-rebate price of the CX 600V2 and just $35 after rebate - nearly half price for a much better unit!

 

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My CPU/mobo recommendation: AMD Phenom II x6 1055T + ASUS M5A97 for $200 shipped at NCIX.  PSU savings should allow you to extend budget for it.  Apparently the deal is valid for 3 more days so long as it's in your shopping cart because not enough people bought it by the time last week's sale ended.


Edited by xd_1771 - 2/19/12 at 11:52am
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Just get them a cheap laptop tongue.gif lol

I hate laptops....
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post #16 of 27
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APU and not using the graphics? Waste.


If you are going to get an MSI 3+1 phase board you should not be running anything more than a 95W processor at stock speed with stock cooler/I might not even recommend that due to the quality and VRM failure issues on such boards even with 95W processors.
If the board does die, what if the CPU or PSU dies too?  Then you have 2x or more problem.



I'm not a fan of the PSU choice at all.
Get this: OCZ ZS 550W
It is better in EVERY SINGLE WAY over the CX 600 V2 for a lower price than the after-rebate price of the CX 600V2 and just $35 after rebate - nearly half price for a much better unit!



My CPU/mobo recommendation: AMD Phenom II x6 1055T + ASUS M5A97 for $200 shipped at NCIX.  PSU savings should allow you to extend budget for it.  Apparently the deal is valid for 3 more days so long as it's in your shopping cart because not enough people bought it by the time last week's sale ended.

Thanks for teh suggestion on the PSU. Now what about the Mobo? the ASUS and the ASRock as what I basiclaly narrowed it down to.

EDIT: saw your cpu and mobo recommendation but those aren't available with where I am purchasing everything.

I thought Corsair is near the top with PSU quality? whats wrong with it?. And looking at the specs for both they seem identical given the fact that the OCZ is a 500W instead of a 500W
Edited by mwl5apv - 2/19/12 at 11:58am
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I hate laptops....

Yayayay I do to....it was a joke. Most computer builders hate laptops biggrin.gif
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I don't believe in a "where I'm purchasing everything".  You're not going to get any deal like that unless you have a Microcenter near you.  I am telling you, 6 cores + a high quality ASUS M5A97 (which is like the ASRock 970 Extreme3 in features and price) for $200 is a steal.  Get it while you can.  NCIX is a reputable Canadian retailer that recently expanded their base of operations into the US. I recommend them often.  I also recommend splitting between different retailers for the best deal unless one retailer can price match everything (as with retailers in Canada).

 

There's nothing wrong with the CX 600 V2, just that it's inferior to the OCZ ZS 550W - which has a larger 12V rail, higher efficiency (CX series is barely 80+ ready) and better quality all-around - for less cost.  I find it hard to recommend Corsair units nowadays because there are competitors and Corsair overprices a lot; the CX is their low end unit.  I think longer 3 year vs 2 year warranty too on the OCZ.

 

EDIT: Ok I'm wrong about the 12V rail as the CX 600 V2 is slightly bigger but the ZS 550W probably gives you more headroom.  I know this because a review found that the ZS 650W could supply up to 750W safely and 780W before shutting down protectively.


Edited by xd_1771 - 2/19/12 at 12:11pm
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I don't believe in a "where I'm purchasing everything".  You're not going to get any deal like that unless you have a Microcenter near you.  I am telling you, 6 cores + a high quality ASUS M5A97 (which is like the ASRock 970 Extreme3 in features and price) for $200 is a steal.  Get it while you can.  NCIX is a reputable Canadian retailer that recently expanded their base of operations into the US. I recommend them often.  I also recommend splitting between different retailers for the best deal unless one retailer can price match everything (as with retailers in Canada).

There's nothing wrong with the CX 600 V2, just that it's inferior to the OCZ ZS 550W - which has a larger 12V rail, higher efficiency (CX series is barely 80+ ready) and better quality all-around.

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MicroCenter motherboard/cpu combos are usually lowest priced when running with free or motherboard discounts.

Today at microcenter: motherboard/cpu bundles:
Asus M5A97 AM3+ ATX $10 - $10 MIR WITH PURCHASE OF FX8120 $200
Gigabyte GA 970A UD3 AM3+ ATX Free with purchase of FX8120 $200

if I am reading pages 3 and 4 of the flyer right. Prices in store only. Some Frys will pricematch some items. usually stock is limited.

FWIW I would go with Intel
newegg:
Biostar TH67+ H67 Motherboard $80 before $25 MIR
Asrock P67 PRO (B3) NO Video on board $105
Asrock Z68M/USB3 $93
INTEL G530 Celeron $52 should equal AMD Athlon II x3 455
...........G630 Celeron $67
...........G620 Pentium $70 easily beat AMD Phenom II 565 X2
...........G840 Pentium $85
...........G850 $88
...........G860 Pentium $99
I3 2100 $124 - $15 EMCNHJC32 to 2/20/12 equal or superior to Phenom II X4 955

MicroCenter has lower CPU prices G620 $50 I3 2100 $100 in store
Edited by brasslad - 2/19/12 at 12:19pm
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