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I was just wondering if anyone could tell me what it would look like if I primed, laid down gloss black, then laid down a transparent candy over it? Would you see the candy at all?
post #2 of 6
What is transparent candy...?

I know there's transparent coats, clear..
Then there's candy colored..
But... transparent candy is a new one.
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candy is basically just a high gloss clear coat with a tint to it to bring out a base coat. so unless you are doing a bright metallic base coat no you will not see the candy it will basically come out to a super high gloss mirror reflective black.

btw its just called a candy coat its already translucent. and after the base coat you would lay the candy coat and then a clear coat. in order to make a candy look super good you need to do 3 light coats of each and sand them with the finest sand paper you can get a hold of. in all honesty i would let a professional painter shoot it if you really want to do this. it would take a few days of work to get it close and even then it may not be perfect. ive done them on motorcycle gas tanks myself and they never come out as good as if a pro did it.


if you want a gloss black mirror finish i would go with house of color jet black and the kosmik show klear and for a primer i would use KUSTOM DTS FOUNDATION SURFACER/SEALER - NEUTRAL GRAY (its in caps cuz thats the exact name on the order form haha couldn't remember it)
you will need a spray gun and air compressor for this.

if you decide to go the cheaper way and use rattle cans from home depot i would pick up either a rustoleum or valspaar neutral grey sandable primer (do the light coats then sand then apply 3 more light coats and sand) let it cure for 2 hrs or stick it onfront of a heater for an hr. then use a high gloss black ( 2 light coats, sand, 2 light coats sand then do 3 light light coats and sand) then you will need some sort of high quality clear coat and or sealer unless you can find one that has both and just do 2 coats and sand and keep applying coats untill you get the shine you desire.


sorry for the long drawn out post just wanted to provide the best information from my experiences with high gloss and candy paints. i hope this helps you out.
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If you're going to get into candy coloring, you're just as well off to powder coat.
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If you're going to get into candy coloring, you're just as well off to powder coat.

Well, this all started when I bought a box of plastic car model stuff from a resale shop. It had several rattle cans in it, including a brand new Testors Gloss Black, and a brand new Model Master transparent candy purple. So the general idea was based around model cars, but I was thinking it would look pretty sweet on my Storm Scout to have a gloss black with a slight purple iridescence.
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candy is basically just a high gloss clear coat with a tint to it to bring out a base coat. so unless you are doing a bright metallic base coat no you will not see the candy it will basically come out to a super high gloss mirror reflective black.
btw its just called a candy coat its already translucent. and after the base coat you would lay the candy coat and then a clear coat. in order to make a candy look super good you need to do 3 light coats of each and sand them with the finest sand paper you can get a hold of. in all honesty i would let a professional painter shoot it if you really want to do this. it would take a few days of work to get it close and even then it may not be perfect. ive done them on motorcycle gas tanks myself and they never come out as good as if a pro did it.
if you want a gloss black mirror finish i would go with house of color jet black and the kosmik show klear and for a primer i would use KUSTOM DTS FOUNDATION SURFACER/SEALER - NEUTRAL GRAY (its in caps cuz thats the exact name on the order form haha couldn't remember it)
you will need a spray gun and air compressor for this.
if you decide to go the cheaper way and use rattle cans from home depot i would pick up either a rustoleum or valspaar neutral grey sandable primer (do the light coats then sand then apply 3 more light coats and sand) let it cure for 2 hrs or stick it onfront of a heater for an hr. then use a high gloss black ( 2 light coats, sand, 2 light coats sand then do 3 light light coats and sand) then you will need some sort of high quality clear coat and or sealer unless you can find one that has both and just do 2 coats and sand and keep applying coats untill you get the shine you desire.
sorry for the long drawn out post just wanted to provide the best information from my experiences with high gloss and candy paints. i hope this helps you out.

No problem about the long post, lots of valuable info in there! Thanks!

Next question would be, how could I get the look I want without having it professionally sprayed? Like I said above, I would like a gloss black, with a purple iridescence. So it shows purple when the light hits it a certain way.
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without having it professionally sprayed you will need a lota cash my friend. youll need a good large capacity compressor for an even spray at least 80gal. you will need a spray gun and hopper. various dif sand papers all fine grits above 2200 and 800 1500 2200. i usually start with a 2200 but it depends how much time you want to spend sanding. i usually spend 1-2 hrs with each piece im painting so its smoother than silk. i would say as far as good quality paint goes use house of kolor jet black and call them and ask them to mix you up a candy or a base coat with the effect you want. then use there high gloss clear coats. always use primer it will help the paint to adhere better as well as add durability. a paint job is only as good as your first coat. if your primer is garbage then so is the rest of it.

honestly my friend this isnt cheap to do. im no professional painter by any means and i usually charge 600 to do a 5 gal chopper gas tank. and of that 6 only 200 goes into my pocket.
your looking at probably 50-60 for the jet black 50-60 100 or so for a mixed candy 50-60 for the clear coat. plus shipping. they may have small quantities you can order for alot cheaper. 20 for the sandpapers maybe more depending how much sanding you do. 50-100 for a good spray gun and 2-500 for a good compressor.

you can always cheap out and get tools at harborfreight if you want to. im not going to tell you which route to go but do know that it has the potential to come out looking like complete vomit or it might come out really well who knows. personally im anal when it comes to the tools i use.

you could also find it in rattle cans at model or airbrush stores maybe even art supply places or online to do the job alot cheaper. ive never used rattle cans with custom colors and effects so honestly i cant tell you how it will turn out. which ever route you do take just be patient and do your absolute best. if you take your time and think through every step you should come out on top.

best of luck
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