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A6 in the OP. I got it all nicely layed out a linked. Only thing that makes me over budget is the 50 tax thumb.gif
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A6 in the OP. I got it all nicely layed out a linked. Only thing that makes me over budget is the 50 tax thumb.gif

ahhh, just had a look, nice.. he will be happy with that.. well i think you going to over budget as i wouldnt as mentioned change that HDD and i doubt you wont get anything better cheaper unless you went and had a look at second had WDs thumb.gif
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IF

It is just for Net and Movie's, I would suggest going down to a A4 3400

changing that ram to 8 Gb of 1600Mhz or higher

and

changing that SSD + HDD to a HDD that is faster.

If he is not very computer minded a small C:\ will only confuse him more when it comes time to start installing more programs.

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If he is not very computer minded a small C:\ will only confuse him more when it comes time to start installing more programs.
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My parents had this problem.... So I went over and changed all the default save folders to the D: drive. Problem solved.

Also, OP, getting really good ram really helps these iGPU's a lot. 1600 is a must IMO and if possible, swing 1866 and he'll notice a 5-10% increase in performance in some cases over the 1333.

Your looking at $80 plus for your Case + PSU which is a bit overkill for such a budget. Putting the extra $ toward better ram will help. These systems are extremely low powered and you can get away with just about any 80+ rated PSU.

Also, for a few bucks difference, get this ASRock A75 PRO4-M FM1. It's an A75 so slightly better features, and its a sinked board for better OCing, as those 3500's can OC nicely (parents LOVE their 3500 build)

Don't have time now, but I might pop in again with more suggestions on specific ram and case/psu later. Good luck with the build.
Edited by Fuell - 2/19/12 at 6:24pm
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My parents had this problem.... So I went over and changed all the default save folders to the D: drive. Problem solved.

^This^ I planned on putting the OS on the SSD and Changing the default save folders to the D: drive. As for A4. Maybe if the budget is too close to 600 for him I'll keep it in mind. thumb.gif
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This build is ridiculous.  $600 and A6?  You can configure a full A8 build for $450. Ah, counting monitor and an SSD.

 

Oh, definitely don't bottleneck your APU with generic memory.  See: THIS; that's a 15% gain with 1600 over performance 1333 CL7 in Metro 2033 and 46% over generic 1066 CL7.  COD 2 shows similar benefits.  Even in WinRAR, which is a CPU-bound and not GPU-bound app, do you see huge benefits.  Llano is memory-bandwidth-dependent all over.  The gains of 1866 over 1600 are somewhat minimal in comparison though - but that changes when/if you overclock.  Spend on DDR3 1600-1866.

 

I recommend you reduce the budget on the case/PSU.  Even a $30-40 combination with a 200W PSU (new one, not an old one - and not a mediocre unit like those from Logisys and Diablotek - something that can hold at least) will handle an A8 APU based PC well enough because the chip is so power efficient.  This will free up room to spend on a better APU.

 

Hint hint: $76 shipped for Seagate HDD at NCIX - A8 + A55 board for $210 shipped NCIX - Pixxo CM-9E8A-R $30 + ~$11 shipped Meritline (I recommend SFF for builds like these that do not need the expandability offered by a full size case; even then you could put a low profile 6670 for CrossfireX into this PC if he cares about it and the included PSU, which has been known to handle low profile GTS 250s, can handle it).


Edited by xd_1771 - 2/19/12 at 11:25pm
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This build is ridiculous.  $600 and A6?  You can configure a full A8 build for $450. Ah, counting monitor and an SSD.

Oh, definitely don't bottleneck your APU with generic memory.  See: THIS; that's a 15% gain with 1600 over performance 1333 CL7 in Metro 2033 and 46% over generic 1066 CL7.  COD 2 shows similar benefits.  Even in WinRAR, which is a CPU-bound and not GPU-bound app, do you see huge benefits.  Llano is memory-bandwidth-dependent all over.  The gains of 1866 over 1600 are somewhat minimal in comparison though - but that changes when/if you overclock.  Spend on DDR3 1600-1866.

I recommend you reduce the budget on the case/PSU.  Even a $30-40 combination with a 200W PSU (new one, not an old one - and not a mediocre unit like those from Logisys and Diablotek - something that can hold at least) will handle an A8 APU based PC well enough because the chip is so power efficient.  This will free up room to spend on a better APU.

Hint hint: $76 shipped for Seagate HDD at NCIX - A8 + A55 board for $210 shipped NCIX - Pixxo CM-9E8A-R $30 + ~$11 shipped Meritline (I recommend SFF for builds like these that do not need the expandability offered by a full size case; even then you could put a low profile 6670 for CrossfireX into this PC if he cares about it and the included PSU, which has been known to handle low profile GTS 250s, can handle it).

You are quite the budget Builder. Would you mind setting a parts list with their links? Budget $600. I think you will be able to put better quality parts that work together. I'm use to gaming builds. I thought I'd try and work with the Apu. $600 I need a full computer +monitor 24" prefered. Zero gaming. Just media. I greatly admire your computer prowess and wisdom. I would really appreciate it.
post #28 of 29
Oh so better ram helps llano even more than I thought in some cases. Thanks for posting that link XD.

XD's parts list so far was at $316, add your monitor and Optical drive puts us at $482. $111 left. You could still get good 4GB ram kit and a small 60GB SSD without going over budget, or very far over depending on the SSD performance you want to pay for, if at all still.

So still staying within the same budget and getting much better parts with the A8 3870 (plus mobo combo price is amazing), your build is looking pretty sweet.

For cheap SSD capacity you can try this OCZ Vertex Plus 120GB for $84 but its Sata2 so the performance won't be like that of the M4 but its very cheap for SSDs. And the Indilinx controller is stable from what I hear (though I know little of SSDs, just want to point that out).
You could also go with this OCZ Petrol 128GB for $105 for cheap as well... And its Sata3 and Indilinx Everest controller. Not quite as fast but not as expensive as top of the line SSDs. But if the budget is low and you want an SSD, this would give affordable performance gains that will be noticed over platter HDDs.

Sorry I didn't have time to look up ram.
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