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if ill go with Intel Core i7 2600K ... which mobo and CPU cooler should i go with?
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I get it too, If you do go 7950 it will just make your system better, Also keep your original plan and get the best you can, a 2500k is good, but you orginal question was I5 or I7 for future proof the answer is I7 is WAY more future proof then the I5 if you go 2500k now you will have to upgrade your CPU much sooner then if you go 2600k. The 2600k has more cache and HT (which makes the OS see it as 8 cores), more programs in the future are going to be using HT so IMO the 2500k is on its way out the door, especially with IVY coming out. Like you stated sometimes its not what you need its what you want and thats alot of what this site is about. It's funny to see poeple suggest less, Ive NEVER seen a post with someone saying I wish I bought a less expensive CPU when I didnnt need the one I have, NOT once. You might find that once you have a rig that can do performance anything you might be doing it more and if not you still have an awesome system that can always be upgraded into even more. I was same way, I realized I could afford way better hardware then when I was younger and went for f it, why not it's a great hobby. Make sure to post some build pics when you get up and running.

That's so wrong... if you don't take advantage of the Hyperthreading its just pointless buying an i7.
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It's funny to see poeple suggest less, Ive NEVER seen a post with someone saying I wish I bought a less expensive CPU when I didnnt need the one I have, NOT once.

See this thread : Why I didn't need an i7
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something like this
27ook 280$
2TB 7200k HDD120$
480
Cooling you have choice
if you like to get dirty then get a
XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit 117$
and if you are not too familiar with WaterCooling then go with a Closed loop like
Corsair H100 100$
Total 1091$ with the XSPC Rasa 750 RS240 Universal CPU Water Cooling Kit
Hope that Helped you thumb.gif
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If you really want to spend all that money heres my pick for a non gaming rig

Cpu-intel core i7 2600k-$330
Motheboard-asrock exterme3 gen3-$150
Ram-good 8gb kit-$45
Gpu-amd radeon 6770-$110
Case-haf 922-$100
Psu-corsair 750-$30
Dvd-what ever cheap dvd drive-$20
Drive-m4 128gig-$170

So its a little over, sue me
 
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Thanks for understanding smile.gif Yeah Yor are right it got pretty hot in here for a moment lol ... and even if its a general purpose (lil gaming involved) i don't really understand "u blowing money in the wind" if i have a $1000 budget to spend and ill get the best parts for that price ain't the system gonna last me longer?? in that case for me money is not wasted ... yeah ill spend less system gonna last less... no worries ill post some pics ...it wont be soon tho I think i'll might hold off till Ivy will come out...

Thank You everybody for the input it's very appreciated!

The people recommending lesser parts just want to build you a system that is appropriate for your needs. Despite this being an enthusiast forum, many of its members are sensible enough to look for the best valued component (i.e., price to performance ratio) in any field, which is usually determined by a person's budget and needs. Actually, that is a very, very significant driving force behind a site like OCN: understanding the technical details beneath the marketing to determine the best valued and best performing components. You want to meet a budget that allows you to buy much better components than your needs require, as far as we can tell. To members of OCN who wish to be informed, smart buyers, that is just wasted potential, a sin for most outside of PC building and doubly so within. That's it, mostly. Although, I'd also say there's some competitive spirit involved in building the best bang-for-buck system that meets an individual's requirements without overspending (see: prebuilt systems).

I understand where you're coming from, though: you want to live the dream by buying a computer that you could only have dreamt about previously. Nothing wrong with that, but will the "best parts" last you longer? That's debatable if you confuse higher priced and feature-heavy components for reliable or "futureproofed" components. You won't see much benefit between an i5-2500K with a P67 mobo vs an i7-2600K with a Z68 mobo in most instances. If you are not a power user let alone an overclocker, then all differences might as well be superfluous because you won't be aware of nor appreciate those minor differences. It just won't happen, and you wouldn't extend the life of your PC at all! Not in any foreseeable, significant manner, anyways.

You want real futureproofing? Buy well-built components with long lasting warranties, which can be further expanded upon with low failure rates and good customer service.

RAM? Presently, capacity rather than bandwidth (once you reach the 1333-1600MHz range) dictates value. G. Skill, Corsair, and Mushkin are good names. Also, that Samsung kit people have been recommending is kind of a ground-breaking performer in an otherwise stagnant area.

HDD/SDD? With HDD prices as high as they are... you can opt for capacity and get that 2TB Seagate from NCIX that's been recommended, or you can opt for a smaller drive with a warranty greater than 1 year. Your call. HDD preference usually comes down to personal experience and brand loyalty. I'm not well-versed in SSDs, but avoid OCZ. As a rule, avoid OCZ...

GPU? Get more than 1GB VRAM, preferably 2GB because some games can already pull more than 1GB of VRAM on max'd settings. Also, know the downfalls of multi-GPU gaming like microstutter on lower mid-range pairings and lowered compatibility across the board. There's arguably a point of diminishing returns on single GPUs when going from roughly the $2XX price range to the $300+ price range.

PSU? So many places to go wrong here. The majority of PSUs are not good units or buys at all, and major differences can exist between PSUs of different wattage ratings from the same company under the same product line. I would recommend researching any purchase yourself on a proper review site like www.jonnyguru.com or asking for advice in the PSU subforum and not here. You want reliability? Seasonic and Enermax are a good starting point. I recommend you get a particularly solid PSU just to remove all doubt regarding its continued operation. I haven't kept up with the PSU scene for a little bit, so I would recommend something built upon Seasonic's M12D/S12D platform, like the Silverstone ST75F-P still for sale, or their X series. Solid stuff there. If you want cheaper alternatives, the Rosewill HIVE and CAPSTONE lines appear to be ok, as does the NZXT Hale82 line. Honestly, with just a single GPU, you can get away with sub-500W quality PSUs.

Case? If this were my dream build, I would make certain to get a full sized case. You need to determine which features you like in a case, unless looks trump all. Bottom-mounted PSU, ample fans (3+) at least 120mm, easy interior access via thumbscrews or handle, and space behind the motherboard tray for cable management are some good features. You can also have a cutout on the motherboard tray behind the CPU for easily removing and replacing the CPU cooler without removing the motherboard and attached components, but that can be hit or miss depending on the motherboard and CPU cooler in my experience. My dream case would probably be the two-tone NZXT Phantom, but offerings from Cooler Master, Antec, Silverstone, and Lian Li should also be fine.

Good luck.
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That's so wrong... if you don't take advantage of the Hyperthreading its just pointless buying an i7.
See this thread : Why I didn't need an i7

You can't actually post something YOU wrote as reference and expect that to back up your point lololol. Anybody can do that, and I also saw alot of people not agreeing with you. EDIT my bad , we were talking about the 2600k not the 920,. Anyways im busy now but I find some of the real (NOT written by me) posts of users who regreted the 2500k. thumb.gif

For the OP , The Maximus IV GEN-Z/GEN3 is an awesome high end board for only $180 in most places on sale due to its size. This board has all the performance of the $350 version with the only major difference in being theres only 2 pcie slots and not 4. But if you dont plan on using more then 2 GPUS like 95% of users then this is a great option. That MOBO also comes with instant OC feature different from other brands, there's a CPU instant upgrade function which allows users to choose between 4.2GHz and 4.6 GHz for instant stable OC. I also own one, But almost any MOBO I recommend is ASUS mainly being you can never go wrong with that brand.

http://ca.asus.com/en/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/Maximus_IV_GENEZGEN3/
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