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Hi everyone !
Its been a year or so since I last posted ...

First ... I only have 1 PC ... which is huge and heavy .. : (

Installing new harddrives is a nightmare , due to HAF X requiring me to open both side covers .. that IF I could move it to begin with .. lol

Anyway ... I decided to offload all my files and storage harddisks into a seperate home-network-server .. I won't upgrade it whatsoever .. I'll just add new hard drives whenever I run out of storage ..

So ... I was fooling around in Amazon .. and I came out with this shopping list :


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I know ... it's an overkill for a mere file server ... but who knows ... I might need it to do some serious tasks in the future biggrin.gif

One more thing ... I didn't build an AMD machine in years ... so I don't know if these parts will fit together ... I did my homework , and they seem 100% compatible ...

What do you think ?

P.S. : Sorry for using bold font .. its easier for my eyes to read . smile.gif
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Honestly the point of a server is to run quiet, cool, and low power - that server isn't going to do any of those things. I'd recommend going with something similar to my NAS which does quite a bit of grunt work - Intel Celeron G530 (LGA 1155), H67 motherboard, 350W PSU, a case that can handle quite a few HDD's (mine holds 7 total) and 8 - 16GB of memory (I'm using Samsung 1.35v memory)

Something like that isn't going consume much over 75W and it doesn't go over 35 - 40c even under intense load.
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Originally Posted by appleg33k85 View Post

Honestly the point of a server is to run quiet, cool, and low power - that server isn't going to do any of those things.

That is the qualities of a home server, where most people don't like noise tongue.gif

What's the SSD for? If you aren't restarting a lot, or running a heavy DB, distribute that $300 for a couple hard drives, like 3 Samsung F4 2TB drives in a Raid 5. Also, I would get a bigger board, smaller CPU, and probably chop the ram in half for now. If it's going to mainly hold files, then put the money in the purpose( EG MORE SPACE!!). Have you decided what OS you're going to use?
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Honestly the point of a server is to run quiet, cool, and low power - that server isn't going to do any of those things. I'd recommend going with something similar to my NAS which does quite a bit of grunt work - Intel Celeron G530 (LGA 1155), H67 motherboard, 350W PSU, a case that can handle quite a few HDD's (mine holds 7 total) and 8 - 16GB of memory (I'm using Samsung 1.35v memory)

Something like that isn't going consume much over 75W and it doesn't go over 35 - 40c even under intense load.

Thank you ! biggrin.gif

I know .. I did my homework thumb.gif

But ... for this particular build , I don't know what I might use it for in the future .. But I know that being a file server is but 1 task I would throw for it wink.gif

As for power consumption (if I spilled it correctly) , its not an issue for me at all ...

I chose these components for the sole purpose of doing anything I would throw at this machine in the years to come ..

As for the case , this SilverStone one can hold 7 HDDs with no problem + it doesn't have restrictions over PSU size too .

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That is the qualities of a home server, where most people don't like noise tongue.gif

What's the SSD for? If you aren't restarting a lot, or running a heavy DB, distribute that $300 for a couple hard drives, like 3 Samsung F4 2TB drives in a Raid 5. Also, I would get a bigger board, smaller CPU, and probably chop the ram in half for now. If it's going to mainly hold files, then put the money in the purpose( EG MORE SPACE!!). Have you decided what OS you're going to use?

I don't mind noise at all biggrin.gif its going to be in a special room for my geeky "stuff" only .. lol

1 - The SSD is going into my MAIN PC , which has a 128 Crucial SSD ... This 128 SSD will go into the server as an OS disk . thumb.gif

2 - I already have x3 1TB WD Greens which will be used into the server for a while , so I won't need any extra space for a month or two ..

3 - I won't do RAIDs , I want to avoid failures at all costs .. + Parity would take an extra HDD which isn't good for what I'm aiming for .smile.gif

4 - As for the board , CPU and RAM ... I just want to give AMD a chance this time wink.gif But MAYBE , I would pick a 4100 instead .

5 - The OS would be Windows Server 2008 R2 . it uses less RAM than 7 .
Edited by TheImperial2004 - 2/20/12 at 12:31pm
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I agree with Appleg.

Pick a i3-xxxxT processor or a i5-xxxxT model if you really need some extra juice.
And wait for the new Earthwatts PSU models with 80+ Platinum, price should be around the same as that Silverstone PSU.

For an efficient motherboard, pick a Intel motherboard. Just make sure it has proper chipset heatsinks.
and the last, pick some 1.25-1.35V RAM. It won't help alot on power consumption, but everything helps, especially if you really need that much RAM.

*Edit:

If you really want to keep that Bulldozer CPU, make sure you use proper settings to prevent the power consumption from being high all the time.
Edited by Bloodcore - 2/20/12 at 12:30pm
 
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I agree with Appleg.

Pick a i3-xxxxT processor or a i5-xxxxT model if you really need some extra juice.
And wait for the new Earthwatts PSU models with 80+ Platinum, price should be around the same as that Silverstone PSU.

For an efficient motherboard, pick a Intel motherboard. Just make sure it has proper chipset heatsinks.
and the last, pick some 1.25-1.35V RAM. It won't help alot on power consumption, but everything helps, especially if you really need that much RAM.

*Edit:

If you really want to keep that Bulldozer CPU, make sure you use proper settings to prevent the power consumption from being high all the time.

Are you reading my mind ? biggrin.gif

Initially , I decided to go with an i5-2400 .. But when I saw a 8-core bulldozer for around the same price , I decided to take the plunge and try it out ..

I'm going to underclock it , or disable Turbo-core .. for sure

Earthwatts PSU ?? Its the first time I read such name ! Time for extra homework for me biggrin.gif

BTW .. that ASUS MB has a passive heatsink for its chipset


Thank you thumb.gif
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There are a few types of Antec Earthwatts PSUs, make sure you find the model with 80+ Platinum.
 
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There are a few types of Antec Earthwatts PSUs, make sure you find the model with 80+ Platinum.

I will , and I'll post when I get back from work tomorrow -__-

Thank you ! thumb.gif
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As someone said unless your not doing alot of reboots its not benificial for an SSD, i tend to agree.. But where a ssd or even a bootable usb will shine is keeping the OS seperated from the Storage drives.
AS to OS win server 2008r2 is fine but maybe a bit of overkill at this point.. look at something like freeNAS
http://www.freenas.org/
or the full blkown OS that contains freeNAS is freeBSD
http://www.freebsd.org/

if your like me a styudent and can get win server 2008r2 for free with MS dreamspark i would keep it and try the OSs i sugested, if you dont like them, remove and install win server 2008r2..
you can cut down the rAM to 4 GB as well for this project. keep 16GB if you want but i doubt you will use much of it unless you run some VM's which in this case its not necessary too smile.gif just my oppion and hope its helpful in some way lol
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There are a few types of Antec Earthwatts PSUs, make sure you find the model with 80+ Platinum.

UPDATE :

I looked into Earthwatts line of PSUs ... Unfortunately , I couldn't find any "fully modular" units ... I need a modular PSU , because of the small case ... So that I would use only those cables I need . wink.gif
Quote:
As someone said unless your not doing alot of reboots its not benificial for an SSD, i tend to agree.. But where a ssd or even a bootable usb will shine is keeping the OS seperated from the Storage drives.
AS to OS win server 2008r2 is fine but maybe a bit of overkill at this point.. look at something like freeNAS
http://www.freenas.org/
or the full blkown OS that contains freeNAS is freeBSD
http://www.freebsd.org/

if your like me a styudent and can get win server 2008r2 for free with MS dreamspark i would keep it and try the OSs i sugested, if you dont like them, remove and install win server 2008r2..
you can cut down the rAM to 4 GB as well for this project. keep 16GB if you want but i doubt you will use much of it unless you run some VM's which in this case its not necessary too smile.gif just my oppion and hope its helpful in some way lol

Well ... my 128GB SSD isn't enough for my main rig .. so I decided to upgrade to 256GB one .. And thus , I will reuse the 128GB one in the server rather than throwing it away biggrin.gif

As for the OS , I already have a 2008 R2 copy which I used for a week or so before throwing it away .. so I'm gonna reuse it too . smile.gif
BTW ... I'm a teacher tongue.gif

RAM : I know that I won't need even 2 GB of RAM at this point , but I might use these 16 GB in future tasks , maybe VMs .. same goes for the octo-core CPU thumb.gif

Thank you very much , sir smile.gif

A Question :

Would I need an aftermarket cooler (Low Profile) for this case ? And would it help to extend CPU's life-span if I won't be overclocking ?

Edited by TheImperial2004 - 2/21/12 at 2:27am
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