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There are a few types of Antec Earthwatts PSUs, make sure you find the model with 80+ Platinum.
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I looked into Earthwatts line of PSUs ... Unfortunately , I couldn't find any "fully modular" units ... I need a modular PSU , because of the small case ... So that I would use only those cables I need . wink.gif
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As someone said unless your not doing alot of reboots its not benificial for an SSD, i tend to agree.. But where a ssd or even a bootable usb will shine is keeping the OS seperated from the Storage drives.
AS to OS win server 2008r2 is fine but maybe a bit of overkill at this point.. look at something like freeNAS
http://www.freenas.org/
or the full blkown OS that contains freeNAS is freeBSD
http://www.freebsd.org/
if your like me a styudent and can get win server 2008r2 for free with MS dreamspark i would keep it and try the OSs i sugested, if you dont like them, remove and install win server 2008r2..
you can cut down the rAM to 4 GB as well for this project. keep 16GB if you want but i doubt you will use much of it unless you run some VM's which in this case its not necessary too smile.gif just my oppion and hope its helpful in some way lol
Well ... my 128GB SSD isn't enough for my main rig .. so I decided to upgrade to 256GB one .. And thus , I will reuse the 128GB one in the server rather than throwing it away biggrin.gif
As for the OS , I already have a 2008 R2 copy which I used for a week or so before throwing it away .. so I'm gonna reuse it too . smile.gif
BTW ... I'm a teacher tongue.gif
RAM : I know that I won't need even 2 GB of RAM at this point , but I might use these 16 GB in future tasks , maybe VMs .. same goes for the octo-core CPU thumb.gif
Thank you very much , sir smile.gif
A Question :
Would I need an aftermarket cooler (Low Profile) for this case ? And would it help to extend CPU's life-span if I won't be overclocking ?

Your better off putting both ssds in your main rig there is really no use for an ssd in a server. And the thing you said before about you wont do raid because you want to avoid failure. That's what raid 10 is for to my understanding you can have redundancy. Raid is to help to prevent data failure lol. biggrin.gif
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Your better off putting both ssds in your main rig there is really no use for an ssd in a server. And the thing you said before about you wont do raid because you want to avoid failure. That's what raid 10 is for to my understanding you can have redundancy. Raid is to help to prevent data failure lol. biggrin.gif

What you said about RAID 10 is correct , but I don't want to waste space for mirroring wink.gif

So I'll stick with seperate disks with one partition per disk . smile.gif

OK ... maybe ... maybe , I'll use a 2.5" HDD instead of SSD ... that way I would save around 300 USD .. biggrin.gif
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why not run vmware ESXI? then you are fairly future proofed

have it running freenas then if you want to do more in future you just have to install another virtual machine

as a note the Samsungs make sure you update hte firmware on them otherwise there is chance of data corruption if they have been powered up over XX days on the older drives not sure if the bug still exists but better safe than sorry
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why not run vmware ESXI? then you are fairly future proofed

have it running freenas then if you want to do more in future you just have to install another virtual machine

as a note the Samsungs make sure you update hte firmware on them otherwise there is chance of data corruption if they have been powered up over XX days on the older drives not sure if the bug still exists but better safe than sorry

Thanks !

I need Windows OS , because I want to access the server through the Web anywhere ... My ISP won't give me a static IP , so I made a "chain" of tasks in Windows using Firefox + SendEmail ..

It checks for the IP every 10 seconds and send the result to my Email in case it get changed biggrin.gif pretty simple , but does the job smile.gif

As I can see , that isn't possible in a FreeNAS environment ??

Thank you all thumb.gif
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About the PSU, you don't need it to be modular.
You'll most likely have enough room for the few cables that comes with the 430W-500W version of Earthwatts Platinum.
And they won't restrict airflow by that much.

If I were you, I would sacrifice a modular PSU for a very high efficiency PSU.
 
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If you want media server and web access to your server, I would recommend WHS 2011.

As for hardware:
- An SSD is nice and all, but in a server, you won't notice any benefit at all.
- 16 GB is definitely future proof, but only useful if you plan to run some VM's, 4 GB is more than adequate for a home server
- I would highly recommend looking into at least Raid 1 for your important files. My primary home server has 2x 1 TB drives in Raid 1 for Documents, Pictures, Music and then a 2 TB single drive for Movies and Software. It's hard to see the benefits of Raid 1 until you actually have a severe data loss event where you lose your back-ups as well.
- As for processor, Bulldozer is honestly one of the worst choices you could make, and this is coming from a current FX-8150 owner. I am running my home server off a Phenom II X4 at stock clocks with a 212+ and it's super silent, it's 3 feet form my head when I sleep and I don't hear it. But I've had my home server on an Athlon II X3 at 3 GHz before and even that was never loaded past 50%.

These are all just my recommendations of course.



On another note, you should be able to see your modem's web interface and it will tell you the IP Lease Renew time so you have an idea of when you'll get a new IP, some ISP's even offer a static IP if you call and ask really nicely.
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If I were you, I would sacrifice a modular PSU for a very high efficiency PSU.

Done ! thumb.gif
I removed that PSU from my cart and I'm looking into Antec's line of PSUs now .

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If you want media server and web access to your server, I would recommend WHS 2011.

I did some search about it in the past , and some people say that Windows 7 is still better than it overall ??
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- An SSD is nice and all, but in a server, you won't notice any benefit at all.
- 16 GB is definitely future proof, but only useful if you plan to run some VM's, 4 GB is more than adequate for a home server
- I would highly recommend looking into at least Raid 1 for your important files. My primary home server has 2x 1 TB drives in Raid 1 for Documents, Pictures, Music and then a 2 TB single drive for Movies and Software. It's hard to see the benefits of Raid 1 until you actually have a severe data loss event where you lose your back-ups as well.
- As for processor, Bulldozer is honestly one of the worst choices you could make, and this is coming from a current FX-8150 owner. I am running my home server off a Phenom II X4 at stock clocks with a 212+ and it's super silent, it's 3 feet form my head when I sleep and I don't hear it. But I've had my home server on an Athlon II X3 at 3 GHz before and even that was never loaded past 50%.

- I scraped the idea of an SSD , I've got a 250GB 2.5" HDD laying around ... I'll use it instead smile.gif
- I am a complete idiot when it comes to RAID configurations , let's say : if I had 8 TB of data stored into 2 disks , can I use a 3 TB RAID to backup it ALL ?? Seems impossible to me ... but if the answer was "Yes" , then I'll do it definately wink.gif
- I scraped the Bulldozer too , I'm looking into some Sandy Bridges . I searched for a good H67 MB , but I found that only Z68 ones got more than 6 SATA ports , which is an important selling point to me .. XD

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These are all just my recommendations of course.

Thank you alot sir thumb.gif

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some ISP's even offer a static IP if you call and ask really nicely.

Not my ISP , they suck alot >_<
Edited by TheImperial2004 - 2/21/12 at 9:36am
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If you want media server and web access to your server, I would recommend WHS 2011.
I did some search about it in the past , and some people say that Windows 7 is still better than it overall ??
Not my ISP , they suck alot >_<

WHS 2011 is based off Server 08/R2. Coming from someone who works on every version of Windows Server between 2000 and 08R2 at work and at home, WHS is THE best choice for home use... unless you have 08R2 already.

Your ISP will give you a static IP, you just need to switch to a business line.
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No problem, glad to help, and you can probably get by with just a Pentium G620, that way you still have an 1155 board which is somewhat future proof.


Also in regards to RAID setups, I should have been a little clearer with how I have mine. I don't have a "true RAID 1". WHS 2011 and I believe Windows 7 has built-in software drive mirroring in the Disk Management console, all you need is two drives the same size. Windows takes care of it all for you and there is no performance loss at all from what I've seen. No need for RAID cards, no need for BIOS setup, no extra drivers.



I highly recommend using a small drive for the boot drive (WHS 2011 requires a minimum 120 GB boot drive) and then use WHS 2011 built-in server back-up tool.

the tool allows you to create a boot disc that will restore your server form the back-up. So I have my server back-up to an USB external 500 GB HDD, so if anything happened to the boot drive itself, I wouldn't lose any data, and I just swap in a new small HDD (I use old laptop HDD's) and run the boot disc.

The reason for a laptop HDD is as previously stated, you rarely reboot your server except for system updates so boot-up time isn't a problem, and if you keep your files on separate drives, you don't have to worry about your boot drives speed.



Also Windows 7 vs. WHS 2011 as your platform:
- WHS 2011 is only $50, windows 7 is $100+
- WHS 2011 is already configured for server duties
- WHS 2011 has built-in on-the-fly transcoding for the remote web access
- WHS 2011 has a remote web access for uploading and downloading files (no need for Dropbox, FTP, etc.)

The only downfall I found in WHS 2011 is lack of Windows Media Center so that you can have it running 24/7 and then add extenders. Instead my HTPC needs to stay on 24/7 so my room mates Xbox 360 can run as an extender.

Although I've been told that you can just run Windows 7 in a VM on WHS2011 and use that as a maine Windows Media Center computer. But then you need a Windows 7 license for that.



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If you want media server and web access to your server, I would recommend WHS 2011.
I did some search about it in the past , and some people say that Windows 7 is still better than it overall ??
Not my ISP , they suck alot >_<

WHS 2011 is based off Server 08/R2. Coming from someone who works on every version of Windows Server between 2000 and 08R2 at work and at home, WHS is THE best choice for home use... unless you have 08R2 already.

Your ISP will give you a static IP, you just need to switch to a business line.

Glad to hear a recommendation form someone with server experience, and I managed to get s static IP for my home line by just being nice on the phone and explaining it was strictly for home use and not for web hosting services etc.
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The only downfall I found in WHS 2011 is lack of Windows Media Center so that you can have it running 24/7 and then add extenders. Instead my HTPC needs to stay on 24/7 so my room mates Xbox 360 can run as an extender.

Although I've been told that you can just run Windows 7 in a VM on WHS2011 and use that as a maine Windows Media Center computer. But then you need a Windows 7 license for that.
I run a Win7 VM for that at home xD

Also have a network attached TV tuner so the VM functions as a DVR as well.
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Glad to hear a recommendation form someone with server experience, and I managed to get s static IP for my home line by just being nice on the phone and explaining it was strictly for home use and not for web hosting services etc.

Lucky... I needed multiple static IPs for things like DirectAccess(needs 2 IPs), Exchange server, and Lync server. And I do host a website.
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