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I would able for the $20/year one if it is your first one, unless you have specific hardware requirements where you need the 1GB of dedicated RAM. Anyway, on a $12-15/year VPS it is not even possible to run a GUI as you just don't have enough resources to do it (RAM specifically). With my current setup of 512MB it is possible as it would run and I could probably connect to it, but it is not advised because much of the 512MB would be used just for the interface. UI's are very resource intensive in comparison to CLI and because of that, few sysadmin's will use em especially if resources are limited and when ever are they not? wink.gif

yea I am thinking of doing the cheap one, I don't expect that I will be running much on it.

I am waiting on a buddy to get back to me. He works for a network company, and his boss might let me rent rack space in their building for super cheap if not free. So if that is the case I will end up with a static IP hooked to my 2x Dual core opteron with 8gb of ram server I have in my basement.
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Using VNC connecting to GUI is not that resource intensive.... unless your using GNOME?

XFCE4 on Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Server, using X11VNC, I count roughly 80MB of resident ram from x processes (and i did not try to optimize, as I have 4G). Not to mention, you can use swap on resource limited machines... Does 123systems allow you to specify a swap file?

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
2973 root 19 -1 58680 23m 12m S 6 0.6 0:03.67 Xorg
3027 root 20 0 56284 10m 9076 S 0 0.3 0:00.20 xfdesktop
3028 root 20 0 20980 9792 7872 S 0 0.2 0:00.14 xfce4-panel
1202 root 20 0 15688 9492 4484 S 0 0.2 0:00.07 Xvnc4
3021 root 20 0 18804 8652 7068 S 0 0.2 0:00.15 xfwm4
3046 root 20 0 19928 7744 6004 S 0 0.2 0:00.06 xfce4-menu-plug
2989 root 20 0 19204 7636 3288 S 4 0.2 0:01.70 x11vnc
3013 root 20 0 25812 5956 4780 S 0 0.2 0:00.05 xfce4-session
1228 root 20 0 17972 5912 4540 S 0 0.2 0:00.06 x-window-manage
3053 root 20 0 10324 5876 2416 S 0 0.1 0:00.11 xterm
2976 root 20 0 10248 5676 2320 S 0 0.1 0:00.03 xterm
3023 root 20 0 17452 5468 4400 S 0 0.1 0:00.03 Thunar
3038 root 20 0 17688 4928 4032 S 0 0.1 0:00.01 polkit-gnome-au
3032 root 20 0 18528 4296 2996 S 0 0.1 0:00.01 xfce4-settings-
3022 root 20 0 16048 3396 2484 S 0 0.1 0:00.00 xfsettingsd
1122 root 20 0 20760 3232 2320 S 0 0.1 0:00.04 console-kit-dae
1746 root 20 0 5700 3204 2704 S 0 0.1 0:00.03 polkitd
1227 root 20 0 10272 3016 1972 S 0 0.1 0:00.02 xterm
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No, 123systems.net like 99% of other VPS hosts don't allocate you any swap space. Never thought about using a lightweight desktop system like XFCE and VNC and while 80MB isn't bad, that could still be using for other things wink.gif
    
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...they don't allocate you any swap space...
Obviously they want you to upgrade to a higher end package, but do they all disable the swapon command?
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Obviously they want you to upgrade to a higher end package, but do they all disable the swapon command?

I am guessing so yah. I mean swap acts in the place of RAM so why would they include it? If you need more RAM, you really should upgrade your RAM and not rely on swap. Those few providers who do provide swap space, advertise it in their packages. However, I'd rather take 512MB of RAM than 256MB RAM + 256MB swap.
    
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I am guessing so yah. I mean swap acts in the place of RAM so why would they include it? If you need more RAM, you really should upgrade your RAM and not rely on swap. Those few providers who do provide swap space, advertise it in their packages. However, I'd rather take 512MB of RAM than 256MB RAM + 256MB swap.

I am most likely going to setup my rackable systems server I have at home, and either put it in my sisters house, or put it in my buddies work when they get all setup in their new building.

I would say that having two dual core opteron chips at 2ghz with 8gb of ram and 400gb of hard drive space is a little more useful then 256mb of ram. If I get the VPS from 123 systems, I will most likely set it up with a webpage, and a vent server.
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I am most likely going to setup my rackable systems server I have at home, and either put it in my sisters house, or put it in my buddies work when they get all setup in their new building.
I would say that having two dual core opteron chips at 2ghz with 8gb of ram and 400gb of hard drive space is a little more useful then 256mb of ram. If I get the VPS from 123 systems, I will most likely set it up with a webpage, and a vent server.

I have an actual 1U server too I got for free from my work last summer but haven't time to set it up yet....It's a few years old, but cost $3000 new and has 2GB RAM, dual core CPU, and the NIC card was $1000 alone (gigabit + super low packet loss). The only problem is where will I put it? Colocation locally costs $50-60/month and I could rent a better dedicated server for that much money online but at the same time, I don't want to host it at home because of my low upload speed (1mbps), scalability (if the servers get popular), and the fact I run torrents often which would slow it down....

Haven't figured out what I want to do with it yet, but I plan to use it to run a Windows Server (2003 R2) for game servers and I can use my linux VPS from 123systems.net for mission critical stuff (for 24/7 uptime) and bandwidth intensive stuff too.
    
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Guys, if you want a low powered GUI then you're much better off tunnelling X over SSH. You're graphics rendering will be local but the applications will still run remotely. Plus, as you're using your local desktop environment, you're not spending RAM on running a DE, WM and VNC server.

However, if your really must run VNC, then go with a tiling WM like awesome instead of a full blown DE
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Guys, if you want a low powered GUI then you're much better off tunnelling X over SSH. You're graphics rendering will be local but the applications will still run remotely. Plus, as you're using your local desktop environment, you're not spending RAM on running a DE, WM and VNC server.
However, if your really must run VNC, then go with a tiling WM like awesome instead of a full blown DE

What about latency? Isn't it worse when you tunnel?
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What about latency? Isn't it worse when you tunnel?

SSH itself is the tunnel so using the method he described it would be unavoidable. If you were to do something like VNC though, you would have to tunnel it through SSH for the traffic to be encrypted.

Regarding the latency for encrypted connection, it only takes a little more performance/time to establish the connection but once it is established the latency will be the same.
 
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