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Too bad because that's exactly where the world is headed.

Sadly This is true. frown.gif
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post #82 of 96
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It's true, page 3 of that article covered how Intel's shady practices hurt AMD. AMD got their Billion Dollar settlement, and you can't really blame Intel for Bulldozer's performance.
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Light was shed on Bulldozer’s problems when ex-AMD engineer Cliff Maier spoke out about manufacturing issues during the earliest stages of design. “Management decided there should be cross-engineering [between AMD and ATI], which meant we had to stop hand-crafting CPU designs,” he said.
Production switched to faster automated methods, but Maier says the change meant AMD’s chips lost “performance and efficiency” as crucial parts were designed by machines, rather than experienced engineers.
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Too bad because that's exactly where the world is headed.

Doubt it because OEMs can always use AMD's APUs to fill the low end niche of the market. They will have plenty of orders to fill.

As long as I can get what I want, I don't care if AMD keeps on releasing dozens of bad performing and slow products parts like BD or vice versa.
 
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post #83 of 96
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It's true, page 3 of that article covered how Intel's shady practices hurt AMD. AMD got their Billion Dollar settlement, and you can't really blame Intel for Bulldozer's performance.

Are you aware that CPUs aren't made in 3 months? It takes years to design and refine a CPU architecture. YEARS! While Intel did not admit to these practices with a settlement, there is plenty of evidence showing Intel was in fact bribing companies to not sell AMD products. I'll keep this simple for you. If Intel's anti competitive practices took sales that other wise would have went to AMD, and also money that AMD could have used for their R&D budget. You know, the one they use to design CPUs and other various products?? So if their R&D budget is lower, they don't have the funds to invest to improve on CPU architectures, how can you expect their products to be competitive with a company with an enormous R&D budget?

But, you can't really blame Intel for its underhanded tactics that directly affected AMD's bottom line and consequently the capital used for R&D. Clearly Nvidia's fault!
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Are you aware that CPUs aren't made in 3 months? It takes years to design and refine a CPU architecture. YEARS! While Intel did not admit to these practices with a settlement, there is plenty of evidence showing Intel was in fact bribing companies to not sell AMD products. I'll keep this simple for you. If Intel's anti competitive practices took sales that other wise would have went to AMD, and also money that AMD could have used for their R&D budget. You know, the one they use to design CPUs and other various products?? So if their R&D budget is lower, they don't have the funds to invest to improve on CPU architectures, how can you expect their products to be competitive with a company with an enormous R&D budget?
But, you can't really blame Intel for its underhanded tactics that directly affected AMD's bottom line and consequently the capital used for R&D. Clearly Nvidia's fault!

I just pointed to what Intel did, but hey, thanks for the lesson, I did not see your type of reply coming at all. rolleyes.gif

AMD's lack of leadership is also ALL Intel's fault.
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The former head of ATI, Dave Orton, left in July 2007 and 2008 saw Stephen DiFranco, the corporate vice president of consumer sales and marketing, fall on his sword. CEO Hector Ruiz left in 2009 after an insider trading scandal.
Ruiz’s successor, Dirk Meyer, left in January 2011, and he was followed out by Robert Rivet and Marty Seyer – AMD’s chief of operations and senior vice president of corporate strategy. September saw respected products group general manager Rick Bergman depart.

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Here we go again. tiredsmiley.gif
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Hopefully they aren't just higher clocked versions.

Also, lock incoming, take cover!
    
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Hopefully they aren't just higher clocked versions.
Also, lock incoming, take cover!

Atleast they got the TDP down to 95w now. biggrin.gif
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Good luck... with the hoping...
I don't believe in bulldozer anymore. Piledriver might save AMD.

You know, it's not like piledriver is in the whole "Save AMD!" category. AMD is a big, 40 year old company. Even if PD flops, which it probably wont, its not like AMD is going to completely collapse straight after. Sure, it might invalidate them in the high-end/enthusiast market, but there's still trinity, bobcat, the server and mobile markets, and lets not forget that AMD is expanding their whole company with memory modules and such.
    
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I'm all for AMD but if Piledriver is slightly less than or equal to the Sandy Bridge I think that would be a win in my book, Hopefully Windows 8 will also increase the performance once the operating system can utilize all the cores properly. I upgraded from my Phenom 965 Black Edition and it wasn't till I over clocked my CPU to 4.4-4.5GHz until I noticed a performance increase in games. Luckily Bulldozer over clocks like a beast, atleast compared to my Phenom i and Phenom ii chips so hopefully Piledriver makes it even easier.

As long as they improve single thread and power consumption in addition to the higher overclockability, I might be getting one for a high end build. smile.gif
    
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I can't still be the only person who still thinks of bulldozer as a quad core right?

And I may be the only person who fails to see why this matters at all. 4 core or 8 core, it still performs the same.
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