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Far from it, given the rumored 10% increase in IPC performance over the last Bulldozer chips. This might put Piledriver up to par with Phenom II's with good overclockability (something worth upgrading from Phenom II). But it still puts AMD 2 steps behind in the race, Bulldozer was suppose to compete with Sandy Bridge, now Piledriver are going to compete with Ivy Bridge (which is Sandy Bridge on steroids). I see AMD making no impact in the desktop enthusiast world with Piledriver (they will still sell their share to OEM's). Tho their APU's are shaping to be some of the best.

1) It's 15% higher, not 10%.
2) 10% would put it above Phenom II...10% would have it roughly matching Nehalem in IPC.
3) IB will at most be a slight IPC increase in terms of non-iGPU performance and at most slightly more OCability.

All this coming from someone who actually wants to go IB-e if possible. (Extra cores are a plus for video encoding, extra PCIe lanes are a plus for hardware RAID)
    
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The fact of the matter is, that the FX8120 is an EIGHT CORE CHIP. You're comparing it to a FOUR CORE chip. It's biased. Compare a BD 4 Core and Intel's 2500K. Bet your numbers aren't as good as an eight core.
The fact is that they cost the same amount of money so it DOES NOT MATTER how many cores are on the CPU's since you'll be paying the same amount of money.
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Hey look a Bulldozer thread full of OCNs resident armchair engineers and economists

So much wisdom in here I can hardly breathe. Its all over AMD, that random guy said so redface.gif
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It's true, page 3 of that article covered how Intel's shady practices hurt AMD. AMD got their Billion Dollar settlement, but you can't entirely blame Intel for Bulldozer's performance.
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Light was shed on Bulldozer’s problems when ex-AMD engineer Cliff Maier spoke out about manufacturing issues during the earliest stages of design. “Management decided there should be cross-engineering [between AMD and ATI], which meant we had to stop hand-crafting CPU designs,” he said.
Production switched to faster automated methods, but Maier says the change meant AMD’s chips lost “performance and efficiency” as crucial parts were designed by machines, rather than experienced engineers.

1 billion dollars of said intel's then 22 billion dollar grossing margin was only 5% of their cash that's chump change man.
    
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1 billion dollars of said intel's then 22 billion dollar grossing margin was only 5% of their cash that's chump change man.

Hey, take it with AMD, and the courts. AMD accepted the settlement.
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In November 2009, Intel settled all of its outstanding legal disputes with AMD by paying it $1.25 billion, with then-CEO Dirk Meyer saying the two companies were now “competing on a level playing field”.

Perhaps when AMD had the performance lead, they should've kept innovating rather than gone out and bought ATI. Sure, that investment is paying off now, 6 years later, but back then they could've used that money to further the gap between them and Intel.
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Hey, take it with AMD, and the courts. AMD accepted the settlement.
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In November 2009, Intel settled all of its outstanding legal disputes with AMD by paying it $1.25 billion, with then-CEO Dirk Meyer saying the two companies were now “competing on a level playing field”.
Perhaps when AMD had the performance lead, they should've kept innovating rather than gone out and bought ATI. Sure, that investment is paying off now, 6 years later, but back then they could've used that money to further the gap between them and Intel.

The problem with businesses nowadays is that they are short sighted, buying ATi was a good idea, both companies were failing. Now, for integrated graphics they are dominating.
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