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Yeah, it definitely has it's uses ( I use dropbox for some stuff, as well as github ), but for the majority of my data, I like to keep full control over it.
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I don't see what all the fuss is about.

It still sounds like people are under the impression Windows 8 and the general trend of Cloud computing is pushing for you to store your private data online. This is not the case at all. the article makes it very clear by using the example of "choosing to share a picture via email".

It never said that it is replacing personal storage, or physical, never said anything about replacing local file servers of home servers. Simply integration of Microsoft's Cloud Service in to the operating system. I'm surprised by the amount of backlash over a feature that isn't being fully understood yet no one has seemed to complain that Windows 8 offers the ability to use your Windows Live account as a login...

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True, the physical location/security of the data still matters to some companies..which is why I luckily still have a job. redface.gif

I will say SkyDrive, Dropbox, etc. are god-sends for students. I kept all my notes, papers, and projects all on there. Seen way too many students lose their data and cry over it.

This is a great example of using Cloud storage for it's intended purpose. Cloud storage will never replace a physical storage location on-site controlled by the owner of the data, but it does offer a viable solution for backing up less-sensitive data and/or sharing it. Much easier to share a URL to a file.



Here's a common scenario for me. I have all my documents, portfolio, and current projects at work on Cloud storage. Someone requests a file from me via email, I'm out of town and have access to just my phone. I am not going to download a 4 MB excel spreadsheet just to have to re-upload it when I email it, especially if I'm in a plant somewhere with just EDGE. I'll just send them a URL to a file in the Cloud and a passkey to access it.



EDIT: Forgot to type a whole word, thanks Shrak
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I don't see what all the fuss is about.
It still sounds like people are under the impression Windows 8 and the general trend of Cloud computing is pushing for you to store your private data online. This is not the case at all. the article makes it very clear by using the example of "choosing to share a picture via email".
It said that it is replacing personal storage, or physical, never said anything about replacing local file servers of home servers. Simply integration of Microsoft's Cloud Service in to the operating system. I'm surprised by the amount of backlash over a feature that isn't being fully understood yet no one has seemed to complain that Windows 8 offers the ability to use your Windows Live account as a login...
This is a great example of using Cloud storage for it's intended purpose. Cloud storage will never replace a physical storage location on-site controlled by the owner of the data, but it does offer a viable solution for backing up less-sensitive data and/or sharing it. Much easier to share a URL to a file.

Is it just me or does that almost sound like a contradiction. Because if it's sounds the way it does to me, that's what we're worried about. That would be forcing cloud service on people.
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Is it just me or does that almost sound like a contradiction. Because if it's sounds the way it does to me, that's what we're worried about. That would be forcing cloud service on people.

Agreed.

Cloud Storage, again, is a great thing and has its many uses. It's one use, should NEVER be to be the only place for our sensitive docs and info.
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I don't see what all the fuss is about.
It still sounds like people are under the impression Windows 8 and the general trend of Cloud computing is pushing for you to store your private data online. This is not the case at all. the article makes it very clear by using the example of "choosing to share a picture via email".
It said that it is replacing personal storage, or physical, never said anything about replacing local file servers of home servers. Simply integration of Microsoft's Cloud Service in to the operating system. I'm surprised by the amount of backlash over a feature that isn't being fully understood yet no one has seemed to complain that Windows 8 offers the ability to use your Windows Live account as a login...
This is a great example of using Cloud storage for it's intended purpose. Cloud storage will never replace a physical storage location on-site controlled by the owner of the data, but it does offer a viable solution for backing up less-sensitive data and/or sharing it. Much easier to share a URL to a file.

Is it just me or does that almost sound like a contradiction. Because if it's sounds the way it does to me, that's what we're worried about. That would be forcing cloud service on people.

Haha, forgot the word never, was thinking faster than I was typing, thanks for noticing tongue.gif

It definitely is not forcing, funny how one word completely changes an entire statement, silly English language...
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Is it just me or does that almost sound like a contradiction. Because if it's sounds the way it does to me, that's what we're worried about. That would be forcing cloud service on people.

I am thinking they made a typo there and missed the key world "never".

and I don't think any one is saying that this particular move is the end of the world...every one should know that there is a choice, but how far is this going to go? I am in the camp of if you give them an inch they will take a mile. I just see this continual push towards cloud storage...the larger corporations will see this as a good way to scan for files that violate copyrights and then it will snow ball from there. Perhaps that is a bit of "tin foil hat" type mentality, but I don't think any one can argue that they wouldn't try it at least.
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Is it just me or does that almost sound like a contradiction. Because if it's sounds the way it does to me, that's what we're worried about. That would be forcing cloud service on people.

I am thinking they made a typo there and missed the key world "never".

and I don't think any one is saying that this particular move is the end of the world...every one should know that there is a choice, but how far is this going to go? I am in the camp of if you give them an inch they will take a mile. I just see this continual push towards cloud storage...the larger corporations will see this as a good way to scan for files that violate copyrights and then it will snow ball from there. Perhaps that is a bit of "tin foil hat" type mentality, but I don't think any one can argue that they wouldn't try it at least.

If you have any files that violate copyrights, then I doubt you would be storing them in the cloud. But that is another issue entirely that would violate the ToS if we discussed it further rolleyes.gif
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@Axipher, people have uploaded copyright material to the Amazon Mp3 storage thing and have been caught. lachen.gif The general public is not smart when it comes to pc's so I can see JoeSmo uploading all of his turbotax files to the cloud and users the same password as their username and wonders why they had identify theft.
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If you have any files that violate copyrights, then I doubt you would be storing them in the cloud. But that is another issue entirely that would violate the ToS if we discussed it further rolleyes.gif

Well I am not saying I would or any one else would. I am just saying that there is an open door to scanning the cloud storage and once they do it for that then it will be looked for other reasons. These same reasons could increase the push to actually force cloud storage and that is the situation I don't want to see. I want to have full access to my data both electronically and physically. (and I should add that I don't want any one else to have it either...I can do a lot to prevent some one from hacking my servers...but it will always be a possibility. However, if I don't have the hard drive physically in front of me I can't control anything on that end.)
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Well I am not saying I would or any one else would. I am just saying that there is an open door to scanning the cloud storage and once they do it for that then it will be looked for other reasons. These same reasons could increase the push to actually force cloud storage and that is the situation I don't want to see. I want to have full access to my data both electronically and physically.

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