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You're panicking him and you're exaggerating.

How.
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post #12 of 22
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You need to understand this, an 800W power supply that never has to output more than 250/300W does not need a UPS that can support its entire output capacity + the AC->DC conversion losses, an 800W PSU will require a 1300VA+ UPS only if it's utilized at its full potential(800W loads)... if you simply load it to a fraction of what is capable of, you only need a UPS that can cope with that.. is that simple smile.gif
I honestly can't remember the discussion we had, but if I recommended that particular FSP unit to you, you can rest assured it's solid smile.gif

aha, I see, now I got it , thanks dear.... plus 1 rep for you. smile.gif
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post #14 of 22
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How.

First of all... a typical/common UPS does not offer protection of any kind, it simply offers additional up-time, it does not filter power from the mains, it doesn't stop voltage spikes, etc.. also, dirty power doesn't get fed to the components through the PSU(provided we're not talking about trash), small/rapid power drops have absolutely no bearing on how components work since all decent PSUs offer sufficient hold-up time.. data corruption due to power loss isn't that common either.

You make it sound like living without an UPS is essentially living on the edge, and that's simply absurd since a common UPS(off-line) doesn't offer any kind of protection.
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First of all... a typical/common UPS does not offer protection of any kind, it simply offers additional up-time, it does not filter power from the mains, it doesn't stop voltage spikes, etc.. also, dirty power doesn't get fed to the components through the PSU(provided we're not talking about trash), small/rapid power drops have absolutely no bearing on how components work since all decent PSUs offer sufficient hold-up time.. data corruption due to power loss isn't that common either.
You make it sound like living without an UPS is essentially living on the edge, and that's simply absurd since a common UPS(off-line) doesn't offer any kind of protection.

You took my post way to harshly man, sorry about that. never said you HAVE to have one. I do disagree on the protection part. they offer tons of protection in the right situtaion.. Like in my current apartment we get brown out's. They arn't enough to trip my serg protector but they are enough for my display to dimm and my FPS to tank for a moment.
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post #16 of 22
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You took my post way to harshly man, sorry about that. never said you HAVE to have one. I do disagree on the protection part. they offer tons of protection in the right situtaion.. Like in my current apartment we get brown out's. They arn't enough to trip my serg protector but they are enough for my display to dimm and my FPS to tank for a moment.

You're actually enforcing my argument smile.gif
We can discuss UPS type, topology, etc for hours.. that won't change the fact that most consumer units(off-line) and even those regarded as very good(line-interactive) do not offer much protection(none for the off-line cheap units).
A good ups(pure sinewave) costs a lot because is semi-profi equipment, a full protection UPS(online) costs an arm and a leg and you won't find it many homes...

If your UPS was offering protection from the voltage sags you wouldn't see your display dimming and your FPS tank wink.gif
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You're actually enforcing my argument smile.gif
We can discuss UPS type, topology, etc for hours.. that won't change the fact that most consumer units(off-line) and even those regarded as very good(line-interactive) do not offer much protection(none for the off-line cheap units).
A good ups(pure sinewave) costs a lot because is semi-profi equipment, a full protection UPS(online) costs an arm and a leg and you won't find it many homes...
If your UPS was offering protection from the voltage sags you wouldn't see your display dimming and your FPS tank wink.gif

You missunderstood my post. Befor UPS I would get a dimmed display and FPS would tank, After UPS everything was smooth.. even with a normal powerstrip/surge protector it wouldn't help. The UPS fixed the problem...
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post #18 of 22
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You missunderstood my post. Befor UPS I would get a dimmed display and FPS would tank, After UPS everything was smooth.. even with a normal powerstrip/surge protector it wouldn't help. The UPS fixed the problem...

I see, then you bought a good UPS(line interactive pure sinewave or better) which is not something we can say about most people.
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I see, then you bought a good UPS(line interactive pure sinewave or better) which is not something we can say about most people.

You lost me there lol. A friend let me borrow it to see if it resolved the issue. You even tought me a thing or two about UPS's. Thank for taking the time to clear that up.
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