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post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by Rasparthe View Post

Yep! e5xxx are supported thumb.gif

Should only be limited by board VRMs (vcore) and cooling then thumb.gif Provided the score keeps on scaling anyway.
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post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by ARandomOWl View Post

Kentsfield are 65nm quads (Q6600 is one of them). They are basically two Conroe dice in one chip. The E8600 is a 45nm dual core Wolfdale smile.gif

Oh yeah, sorry brainfart doh.gif


Eh, wat!? E5xxxs running at 200 FSB?! That should allow really high speeds doesn't it? The board supports up to 300 FSB assured (The VT800 Ultra achieved that right out of the box), so that means a 50% of overclock provided the board can supply enough power (cooling's not an issue, I'll have a 240 rad cooling it exclusively)...


I'll have to see if I can trade this E6400 for an 5xxx biggrin.gif edit: Or at least use it as part of the trade rolleyes.gif

That I'll Vmod the board should be an assumption... For God's sake, this is OCN rolleyes.gif


Thankies biggrin.gif


Edit: Good news!! I've found some spare copper sheet and small diameter copper tubing I can use to build some waterblocks, and I've also found my ancient Radeon 7000 64MB DDR!! ;__;

I'm in the process of compilating information to voltmod all of this suckers devil.gif
Edited by Artikbot - 2/22/12 at 3:01am
   
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post #13 of 22
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Eh, wat!? E5xxxs running at 200 FSB?!

Yes, the E5200 starts at a 12.5 multiplier and as the model number increases, so does the multiplier. The trade off is that they don't do high FSB like their E8000 cousins.
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post #14 of 22
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Yes, the E5200 starts at a 12.5 multiplier and as the model number increases, so does the multiplier. The trade off is that they don't do high FSB like their E8000 cousins.

Let's see if I can find a cheap E5 and replace the low clocking E6400 biggrin.gif
   
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post #15 of 22
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Dudes, just won the board!! €25 shipped biggrin.gif

A 4COREDUAL-SATA2 with very little use and in very decent condition biggrin.gif


I've been thinking... What about dualcore Celerons? For example, the E3500. It rocks two cores at 2.7GHz, 200MHz bus speed... It runs around a 15% slower compared with the E5400 in SuperPi, but in general computing benchmarks performance is about the same, albeit lower in compression due to cache.

Gaming performance seems to be equal.

The main difference is price. The Celeron is HALF the price of the E5400 (not exaggerating), but don't know how will it fare in benchmarks since most people seem to use Core2Duos, and there isn't a single Celeron redface.gif

First of all I'll try to overclock the E6400 for the time being, as I've yet to find a decently priced Wolfdale, so I'm not really in a hurry.


Thanks once more wink.gif


Edit: Futuremark says the E6400 trounces the Celeron, by about a 20% O_O It might not be a good idea after all tongue.gif
Edited by Artikbot - 2/23/12 at 5:45am
   
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post #16 of 22
I have meant to do a little test between some chips to see if the e8600 (FSB handicapped by the board) or the e5800 are equal when it comes to benchmarks on the 4CoreDual. I have so many things on the want to do list its incredible. Also remember, many of the older AGP cards will be so GPU limited it doesn't matter if your using a 462 board and single core chip because the GPU just can't keep up to the processor and it won't matter what chip your using. This would likely be the case with your Riva card. Congrats on the purchase, they are fun boards.
    
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post #17 of 22
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Haha yeah, it WILL be fun that's for sure biggrin.gif

I might even be able to borrow an E8400, or QXs at a lanparty I'll be attending with the bench. Got friends with good chips willing to set some records with them smile.gif

By the way, I was able to extract the copper gunk from a stock Intel cooler, and I'll be using it to craft a waterblock for the processor tongue.gif

I've thought of doing tiny vertical holes that get together at a large transversal hole at the bottom where water will be sucked from. All that encased in a copper tube with barbs at said positions. Should be enough for some overclocking fun!
   
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post #18 of 22
Have a look at Turrican. He benches a crap load, hence he's number one in the HW Masters.

His AGP setup is:

4CoreDual-SATA2
QX9770 @ 3.4 to 4.8G

http://hwbot.org/submission/638193_turrican_3dmark06_radeon_9800_pro_1478_marks
http://hwbot.org/submission/763325_turrican_3dmark06_radeon_9600_xt_749_marks

That's plastered everywhere on his submission lists.

I have the boards, some decent DDR2, and a chip (not a QX but it's ok). But the board needs mods and I need some proper testing. These old cards also have preferred drivers and can be picky.
post #19 of 22
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I've recopilated various versions of the Z-Modded GeForce drivers for the nVIDIAs, and some of the Omegas for the ATi cards too smile.gif


Turrican's my objective, but his QX is projecting one hell of a shadow upon my shy E6400 tongue.gif
   
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post #20 of 22
For a lot of those old AGP cards, a score is a score and worth 2 TPP even if you're 20th out of 22. So no matter the CPU, the GPU can easily be worth 10 TPP if you bench it without pushing it.
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