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Article title fail, SSD = solid state drive, not flash memory drive. So even a battery-powered persistant ramdisk is technically an SSD.
SSD just means the storage means is electronic and not mechanical wink.gif, it says nothing about the type of memory.
    
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It's the other way around - a flash memory based storage device is an SSD (even a USB flash drive is technically an SSD), but not all SSDs are flash memory.
It's like saying techno is music, but not all music is techno.
Note that, AFAIK, all consumer-market SSDs use flash memory.

USB and SSD both use NAND. There is no difference beside the fact the SSD controller is better and NANDs are faster (if we only consider only the aspect on how the information is stored).

All SSD use flash memory. Some are based on SLC, most MLC and few TLC.

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Article title fail, SSD = solid state drive, not flash memory drive. So even a battery-powered persistant ramdisk is technically an SSD.
SSD just means the storage means is electronic and not mechanical wink.gif, it says nothing about the type of memory.

So what is a HDD? Fire powered? o.0

lol
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A solid state drive is a flash memory based storage device...

It's the other way around - a flash memory based storage device is an SSD (even a USB flash drive is technically an SSD), but not all SSDs are flash memory.

It's like saying techno is a type of music, but not all music is techno.


DISCLAIMER: AFAIK, all consumer-market SSDs use flash memory.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227753
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Article title fail, SSD = solid state drive, not flash memory drive. So even a battery-powered persistant ramdisk is technically an SSD.

an SSD is literally only flash and a controller chip haha

Edit: Just read the posts above, disregard wink.gif
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So what is a HDD? Fire powered? o.0
lol
You missed the point of what I was saying. How is data accessed from a HDD? A motor spins the platter and an arm is moved over the plates and reads the magnetic spin at certain point. The majority of the operation is mechanical, aka moving parts, thus is considered a mechanical drive. An SSD is entirely electronic, aka the movement of electricity is used to read and store data. The electricity is moved by transistors, which are known as solid state components, and thus the drive is solid state.
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actually transistors are switched by electricity, not the other way around...
This wasn't a dissertation on how transistors work tongue.gif, but the point still stands
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I like how nearly everyone doesn't understand my post. >_>

The point is, a ReRAM-based storage device would still be an SSD.
 
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I like how nearly everyone doesn't understand my post. >_>
The point is, a ReRAM-based storage device would still be an SSD.

This is maybe you weren't clear then.
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post #29 of 46
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You missed the point of what I was saying. How is data accessed from a HDD? A motor spins the platter and an arm is moved over the plates and reads the magnetic spin at certain point. The majority of the operation is mechanical, aka moving parts, thus is considered a mechanical drive. An SSD is entirely electronic, aka the movement of electricity is used to read and store data. The electricity is moved by transistors, which are known as solid state components, and thus the drive is solid state.

actually transistors are switched by electricity, not the other way around...



Edit: spelling error
Edited by kdon - 2/21/12 at 9:26pm
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Ya lazer heating the magnet to encode hhd is great and 100 time faster but first to get it will probably be ccp since they re fairly good costumer and tester of ibm product ccp.
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