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Hi, I have always loved AMD over Intel pretty much only due to the cheaper prices for AMD components. Right now I am running a Intel Core 2 Quad q6600 2.4ghz and an old MSI SLI board with a 8900gt video card and 8gb patriot ddr2-800mhz ram. I am wanting to switch to this new setup I have been looking at getting which is: AsRock 990fx Extreme3 mobo - AMD fx-4100 quad-core 3.6ghz proc - 8gb Gskill Ripjaws 1600mhz ram - Nvidia Geforce gtx550 ti video. I know the video and ram are going to out perform my setup, what I was wondering is if switching to that mobo and proc is worth it. If I was going to see a noticeable increase in performance. The new setup will be with an Antec Kuhler H2O water-cooling kit and I plan on oc'ing to it's max potential. Just right now my Intel CPU scores a 7.1 in WEI and I want to know if the AMD FX cpu is going to be a worthy jump.

Thank You.
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Personally right now I would recommend going with intel over amd. An alternative motherboard to coincide I would say the Asus Maximus IV Gene (180 CAD), and a intel 2500K, you'll be spending roughly $100 more but I think it would be a worthy investment.

I upgraded from an Asus M2N-SLI Deluxe, OCZ 8GB DDR2 800mhz with a Phenom 9950 Black
to
Asus 990FX Crosshair, 16GB Kingston HyperX 1600mhz... waited for bulldozer, saw the results and bought a 1090T and currently have high hopes for piledriver.

I was in the very same situation as you were, in fact the parts I am mentioning were the very ones I was considering (well 2600K). If I could go back in time, I'd go with the intel rig.

*EDIT* the intel set up will be better for media encoding and gaming. But either choice will be a significant upgrade from what you already have.
Edited by fofamit - 2/21/12 at 7:37pm
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Depending on how much you want to spend. If your asking if your going to see a perofrmance boost with the 4100FX then the answer is yes. Your in the AMD section so Im not going to get into the Intel AMD stuff, that you probably already know. You should also try to get a 560 Ti on sale which would be more future proof, The Mobo you choosed, AsROCk is solid but if you can afford some extra $$ then the Asus Maximus IV for $20-30 more would do you far better.

The above poster did have a good suggestion, If you were going to Intel then the Asus Maximus IV Gene which is way underpriced for what you get. That board is a solid as they come . paired with a 2500k would really give you a screaming system as well.

Good Luck sir
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IMO..you will see a performance decrease going from c2q to fx4100
It really is not a fast chip.
Two options for you:
A)Stick with AMD and get a mobo/960T(i would)/or 1090T or 1100T
or one of the FX series..other than fx4100 (I am not condoning any FX choices here)but 6100 or 8150
Be ready for a cpu release this year(Maybe not the 1st one)
or
B)derpa derp get Intel yeah yeah 2500k ..:wheee.gif:thinking.gif and be ready for Ivy bridge..coming soon
IMHO Zosma is a fine cpu..it's 90% as good as a highly OC'd 2500k in everything
..and better at day-to-day stuff..windows apps..browser loading..searching files..etc..
It's definitely a step up from a 965BE..and 2 steps up from an fx4100

I'm a little biased redface.gif
psst..click the plus sign
top WEI is 2500K@ 5+ghz ..bottom is Zosma @ 4.3 Ghz (stable setting)don't count the graphics..cuz I had my card gimped that day
338ot
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Not worth. If you want AMD go with the Phenom II's. If you want Intel the 2500K is the best gaming processor out there currently. Also do not buy the 550 Ti. A 460 will give you more performance for roughly the same price.
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The 2500k is the by far the best bang for the buck right now and AMD has really lost that market due to the 2500k. The FX-4100 is not my top choice for a AMD quad core chip because the older Denebs and Thubans easily beat this chip OC'd at lower clocks and you have to get the 4100 up pretty high to see some gains from these older AMD chips. If you want to go AMD, I would recommend the 960T, or 1090T over the 4100-FX. With the right board and with some luck, the 960T can unlock 2 extra cores.

If you are getting the 550gtx, it's time to replace that Q6600 because of some known issues with low GPU utilization with the older core2 chips.(mostly applies to Fermi's) You can do a search on this forum for more info on this.

Good luck
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Thanks for all the great responses. I am true to AMD so that is why I'm leaning that way. I have heard alot of good stuff about the i-5 2500k and have recently built one for a customer. It is a good gamer. That is not my main objective right now though so I don't feel the need to spend more $$$ on that setup. The only reason I suggested the fx-4100 is it has really good review on overclocking and holding stable. The mobo is my main thing right now, I look for expandability, and I believe the Asrock board is a better bang for the buck over the Asus Crosshair V formula I was originally going to get. The CPU is going to be temporarily until I switch to AMD's new 8-core processors (or until Intel has a bad downfall and the i7 2600k is cheaper). I am a Computer Tech at work and I get asked to build good systems for home use and gaming all the time. No one really comes in asking for a bad-a** gaming rig right now because of the economy. As far as the WEI goes I think I will fair pretty well with this setup mated to an OCZ Vertex 3 120 SSD and a 1tb backup drive. The only reason I'm using the gtx550 ti is because I scored one new-open-box-demo from our suppliers for about $50.
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Thanks for all the great responses. I am true to AMD so that is why I'm leaning that way. I have heard alot of good stuff about the i-5 2500k and have recently built one for a customer. It is a good gamer. That is not my main objective right now though so I don't feel the need to spend more $$$ on that setup. The only reason I suggested the fx-4100 is it has really good review on overclocking and holding stable. The mobo is my main thing right now, I look for expandability, and I believe the Asrock board is a better bang for the buck over the Asus Crosshair V formula I was originally going to get. The CPU is going to be temporarily until I switch to AMD's new 8-core processors (or until Intel has a bad downfall and the i7 2600k is cheaper). I am a Computer Tech at work and I get asked to build good systems for home use and gaming all the time. No one really comes in asking for a bad-a** gaming rig right now because of the economy. As far as the WEI goes I think I will fair pretty well with this setup mated to an OCZ Vertex 3 120 SSD and a 1tb backup drive. The only reason I'm using the gtx550 ti is because I scored one new-open-box-demo from our suppliers for about $50.

if you are hell bent want to go amd and a computer tech, then you should see the value of the 960T over the 4100. why deny yourself the chance to get a 6 core for cheap. mix the tech skill with some business sense. don't mean to offend in anyway.
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