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So my little bro is huge into editing skate videos etc... He needs a better machine to run better software, faster.

Hes getting my mobo, processor and memory...

I am gonna give him a 6600 gt one out of my machine along with my 3000+, GA-K8N Pro SLi mobo, and 2x512mb's Samsung pc3200..

So I need to replace those current components now, and eventually update my graphics card, I am not concerned with that at this point, ill run a single 6600GT until then.

my mom isnt gonna shell out a ton, but it sounds like shes willing to get me a better machine and upgrade his.

Im thinking of: as a s939 system

DFI Lanparty UT nF4 Ultra (tired of SLi)

AMD athlon 64 3500+ venice

OCZ Enhanced latency 1gb (2x512 PC3200)


This will run me somewhere around $315

then the video card is later


Or maybe bump up to a good am2 mobo, good memory, and skimp on the processor until I can personally afford better... that, id need some help with considering, I have no clue what to look for...
     
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post #2 of 16
Not bad

Look for either an Opty 144 or the 3700+ San Diego as CPU. The Opty is even cheaper than the 3500+ on Newegg and overclocks well (2.8 - 3.0 is possible if you luck out on the stepping). The reputation of the 3700+ should be well known. Also, both CPUs have 1MB cache as opposed to the 512kb on the 3500+

If high overclocking is your primary goal, I believe that you'd be better off with socket 939 within that budget. If upgradeability is your priority, look for an AM2 rig:

MoBo: ASUS M2N-E Socket AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 Ultra $92.99
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Orleans 2.2GHz Socket AM2 $89.00
RAM: GeIL Ultra Series 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) $124.99

Total: $306.98
    
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What memory do you recommend? Right now im stuck on the price, so im thinking a good, ocable kit of 2x512. I know everyone says bf2 benefits greatly from 2gb, but id rather run 1gb and save the $100 towards my new GPU.

Ive also heard corsair and OCZ dont work in dfi, other times ive heard they work well... should i skip that and get geil or gskill or something?
     
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Not sure about the RAM compatibility.... anyone?
    
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post #5 of 16
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Hmm thanks for the replys, my only concern is the am2 is newer technology. Im afraid of buying another board that doesnt OC well (just like my gigabyte I have now) and based upon the fact that its new, it may not be as well proven...
     
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post #6 of 16
Go with the ram,CPU and mobo chozart said, 667MHz ram will be plenty good for OCing
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post #7 of 16
I am not sure if it has been a problem with others but in regards to the ram compatability issues with DFI and Corsair I have been plagued by them. I originally bought 2 gigs of ram for this computer but could not get the computer to even boot when the 2x512 and 1x1 gig were all in the computer no matter the configuration. Sometimes my ram will just stop functioning when I have it overclocked even though it has been running stable at that clock for weeks and I will have to clear the CMOS to get the computer to start.
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post #8 of 16
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would it be worth it to spend the extra 30 bucks and get corsair or OCZ pc6400 memory with that configuration?

hmm going with that ASUS board seems to be hit or miss, a lot of people have trouble overclocking it. I cant find too much info on the board. I can get info on the nf590 version with SLi. But im concerned, I didnt wanna pay for the SLi feature as it caused me more trouble than it seems to have been worth on my current setup... Hmm maybe sticking to 939 and ocing like mad might be worth it. Now I just need to find good, reliable memory...
     
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post #9 of 16
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Hmm ive done a ton of research, the DFI board looks like the best bet, but is the most picky on memory, Im kind of liking the epox EP-9NA+ SLi or EP-9NAJ motherboards, they seem to be much more tolerant of memory and do a good job overclocking.

I spend a few hours looking at available memory on newegg comparing to the memory selection guide on dfi-street and could only find 2 different types, neither of which are considered "good overclockers" according to them, they were a brand of crucial ballistix 2x512, and PQI black 2x512

Any insight? or should i just suck it up, and get what seems to be the best OC'er around, the DFI?

I dont plan any extreme oc's either, I got a 600mhz on my gigabyte but with reboot on startup issues. Something I want to avoid...
     
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post #10 of 16
You'd be kinda dumb to buy 939 now, get AM2 and you'll have an upgrade path for the future.
 
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