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I just looked back on this thread..............damn

Some people are pulling numbers out of their a**.

I have used both the 9800gt's in SLI, 4870 and 4870 crossfire. I also have the gtx480. I also have the Modxtreme 600W power supply and a power meter. So if you have any questions on the matter just ask.

And to end one debate. The GTX480 with stock fan is fine. Playing games it never went above 75C. Ramp up the fan a bit more and it was even cooler. I went under water for high overclocks and a quiet PC.

As for enough? 1 4870 with a low rez is enough. Quiet a nice card. And they were always hot cards. Keep them under 90C and you are fine. The one's I used didn't like high temps for overclocks.

My advice. Get one 4870. Don't go crossfire. Too many issues with drivers. Yes drivers. I am not basing it on the fact that people keep bashing the drivers. AMD fixed these damn driver issues with the start of the 5xxx series. They perform well and scale well. The 4xxx crossfire still haas problems. If you for some reason want more power, the GTX480 is a great card. Great performer for a great price. And they can be had for cheap these days.
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Originally Posted by pioneerisloud View Post

Are you sure that's not because of the GPU's themselves? My Q6600 HTPC rig at stock speeds (2.4GHz) has no issues pushing 9800GT SLI in most games. The only games where I see a benefit in overclocking the chip are CPU intensive games like GTA IV (which doesn't support SLI anyway).

It wont bottleneck q6600 bcuz my q8400 has same performace @stock and 9800gt sli is +/- = my 460 so I dont understand ur point
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OK first off dont go multi card if your cpu can't hit 3.6-3.8ghz atleast. Even at that speed it will be bottlenecking. I ran 2 4870's on a q9550 @ 4.25ghz, which is quite a bit faster, just to get rid of all bottlenecks. My brothers q6600 @ 3.2 has troubles pushing 2 8800gt's in some games, couldnt imagine two 4870's.

it wont post past 3.4GHz but i don't like to push this MoBo too much its only 4+1 phase and has no FET cooling. plus my current setup maxes every single game i own including crysis 2 with 30+ fps minimum.
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I just looked back on this thread..............damn
Some people are pulling numbers out of their a**.
I have used both the 9800gt's in SLI, 4870 and 4870 crossfire. I also have the gtx480. I also have the Modxtreme 600W power supply and a power meter. So if you have any questions on the matter just ask.
And to end one debate. The GTX480 with stock fan is fine. Playing games it never went above 75C. Ramp up the fan a bit more and it was even cooler. I went under water for high overclocks and a quiet PC.
As for enough? 1 4870 with a low rez is enough. Quiet a nice card. And they were always hot cards. Keep them under 90C and you are fine. The one's I used didn't like high temps for overclocks.
My advice. Get one 4870. Don't go crossfire. Too many issues with drivers. Yes drivers. I am not basing it on the fact that people keep bashing the drivers. AMD fixed these damn driver issues with the start of the 5xxx series. They perform well and scale well. The 4xxx crossfire still haas problems. If you for some reason want more power, the GTX480 is a great card. Great performer for a great price. And they can be had for cheap these days.

90C on a 4870? i have never seen mine go past 80 and that was only because the fan was off and it was only that high for 2-3 seconds before i flip ed the switch on my PSU so i didn't damage my card.
Edited by philhalo66 - 2/23/12 at 3:39pm
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Are you sure that's not because of the GPU's themselves? My Q6600 HTPC rig at stock speeds (2.4GHz) has no issues pushing 9800GT SLI in most games. The only games where I see a benefit in overclocking the chip are CPU intensive games like GTA IV (which doesn't support SLI anyway).

It wont bottleneck q6600 bcuz my q8400 has same performace @stock and 9800gt sli is +/- = my 460 so I dont understand ur point

My point was that a Q6600 doesn't bottleneck 9800GT SLI, even at stock speeds, except for CPU intensive games like GTA IV.
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My point was that a Q6600 doesn't bottleneck 9800GT SLI, even at stock speeds, except for CPU intensive games like GTA IV.

really? i thought they fixed the problems in GTA IV?
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Are you sure that's not because of the GPU's themselves? My Q6600 HTPC rig at stock speeds (2.4GHz) has no issues pushing 9800GT SLI in most games. The only games where I see a benefit in overclocking the chip are CPU intensive games like GTA IV (which doesn't support SLI anyway).

well it does get a big frame boost, but cranking up the clock speed helps alot. BF3 gained about 7+fps going from 3 to 3.3ghz. Even In crysis going from 3 to 3.3 helped alot. cards are fine. In sli for most games sits around 70% gpu use and about 70% cpu use, and I still score higher on benchmarks as people with the same config so its working fine. My q9550 will load the gpu's at 100% when overclocked to an pitiful 3.6ghz (780i board sucks). If anything you will want a phenom II overclocked to 4.2ghz if you want 2 4870's to scale to 5870 level.



2x 4870's will still be better then 1 even on your platform anyway.
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I'd just buy one real graphics card, like a gtx 560. Investing in hardware that's centuries old is just not a good move.
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I'm surprised people are arguing which is better. The 4870 is a full generation or two ahead of the 8800GT, and SLI back then only resulted in around 30% gain per additional card.

But I would say buy it anyways. I mean its 50$ for a card that is a legend. But maybe I'm just nostalgic and a bit regretful for ripping the HSF off mine and then tearing off the capacitors in a mindless act of destruction...

If that's your main rig and your seriously looking to upgrade why don't you just go buy a 6850 1gb for 120 - 130$. It's kind of pointless to waste money on old tech like this, personally I wouldn't buy the 8800gt for more than 35-40$.
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I'm surprised people are arguing which is better. The 4870 is a full generation or two ahead of the 8800GT, and SLI back then only resulted in around 30% gain per additional card.
But I would say buy it anyways. I mean its 50$ for a card that is a legend. But maybe I'm just nostalgic and a bit regretful for ripping the HSF off mine and then tearing off the capacitors in a mindless act of destruction...
If that's your main rig and your seriously looking to upgrade why don't you just go buy a 6850 1gb for 120 - 130$. It's kind of pointless to waste money on old tech like this, personally I wouldn't buy the 8800gt for more than 35-40$.

i only have 50 bucks.
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i have a 4850x2 2gb. so it is like 2 4850 1gb cards. i have no problems with scaling or maxing them out in games. my cpu running 3.0ghz still max's them out. also, with the latest driver i have no crossfire problems at all. with my cpu at 3.8-4.0ghz i do not notice a difference in fps except in cpu intensive games. i play grid, dirt 3{with texture mod}, company of heroes, supreme commander forged alliance, bc2, bf 2142, mw2, mw3, black ops, and a lot of others. most all of them on max settings with a good frame rate. bc2 and bf3 is the only one's i seem to have to turn AA down a bit on for some reason. OP i agree with pioneer, your going to love the second card in crossfire.
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