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On a budget to semi budget laptop? Good luck.

Ok? What's your point? Cost wasn't one of the qualities that I had to consider based on the original question.
    
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The processor market may not be recognizable in a few years. “We have to have our eyes forward, we have to be a predator,” Read says. “You’ve got to scan the savanna, looking for opportunities.” With Apple, Samsung, Qualcomm, Nvidia and Texas Instruments in the market, the last thing AMD needs to do is fixate on Intel.

Good to know Read is checking AMD's blind spot. It would be tragic if AMD missed the boat again.
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Ok? What's your point? Cost wasn't one of the qualities that I had to consider based on the original question.

Anyone discussing APU's in their current state and a Trinity based laptop in the first place are talking in budget terms otherwise everyone would just go buy i7 & 6990M laptops. Hell why even have a market for Trinity?

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You didn't answer any question btw, i believe the question consisted of this;
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would u rather have a great processor and a bad GPU going with Intel.
or a good processor with a good gpu going with AMD.

Just typing i guess.
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I would sure hope so given that AMD also makes graphics cards. If AMD ever settles into second/last place in this area, then they (and we?) should be very concerned.

They aren't. They stated multiple times in their financial analyst day that their entire strategy revolves around visual computing so they have to stay on the edge of graphics, they are still intending to compete for the high end in PC graphics. They use that tech for all of their other stuff, including APU's and such.

I hope AMD can do a turnaround. I think their APU strategy will work, most ultrabook users don't care about bleeding edge, they want a satisfying visual computing experience.
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2012 will be a better year for AMD. I mean, you can't get much worse than year of the Bulldozer.
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as a laptop gamer
would u rather have a great processor and a bad GPU going with Intel.
or a good processor with a good gpu going with AMD.
it dont matter if u got an i9 Extreme, if the graphics solution is weak, then it ruins the whole experience.

Agreed.

It's pretty clear now that the future is headed toward single chip architecture, and AMD is probably in a better position than anyone else to deliver products like that.

At least that's the case with mobile computing, where upgrading is relatively uncommon, I doubt desktop systems will ever be popular in that configuration. If your gaming PC can't be upgraded then it's pretty much toast within three years. I try to keep a five year system replacement schedule with a new GPU and RAM halfway through, if you start off with a decent processor those seem to keep their value for a long time.
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Anyone discussing APU's in their current state and a Trinity based laptop in the first place are talking in budget terms otherwise everyone would just go buy i7 & 6990M laptops. Hell why even have a market for Trinity?
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You didn't answer any question btw, i believe the question consisted of this;
Just typing i guess.

Fair point, but my preferred option was never ruled out.

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But, yeah, I understand where you're coming from. I have never spoken poorly of Llano and I'm sure Trinity will be even better.
    
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Let's hope that by the time Vishera launches Intel is breaking its' scouter in frustration due to AMDs' power level biggrin.gif
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post #29 of 47
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Anyone discussing APU's in their current state and a Trinity based laptop in the first place are talking in budget terms otherwise everyone would just go buy i7 & 6990M laptops. Hell why even have a market for Trinity?
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You didn't answer any question btw, i believe the question consisted of this;
Just typing i guess.

Really? Considering most gaming laptops have that i7q series 2.20ghz stock speed. turbo to 3.3ghz.... if trinity does deliver, do you realize it will run @4ghz turbo speed AND possibly will have much lower power consumption? Don't diss the trinity chip in terms of gaming just yet smile.gif


Might want to check this out, heh. http://www.overclock.net/t/1219063/engadget-amd-piledriver-cores-will-clock-over-4ghz-employ-resonant-clock-mesh#post_16529300

and I forgot to add that trinity apu's can crossfire their integrated gpu with a dedicated radeon to give you near double the graphic perfomance in games. It will without a doubt be 100% scaling in WOW like llano + dedicated gpu was in my laptop in sig. Also my laptop only costed me 650 at bestbuy! Now imagine the price/performance cost of trinity. if you ask me, I think intel is going to seriously have a run for their money real soon lol. APU's are the future smile.gif Ohh and it gets even better because you can probably overclock using k10 stats like llano probably.
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Notsureifserious or just can't comprehend.

I was replying to the person that I qouted.

But anyways looks like amd's new CEO is full of constructive ways to turn amd on the right business path aka "becoming the Predator" smile.gif
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