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I think the funny thing about that huge list that they released is that DICE had already released a massive list of fixes and tweaks that were going to be in the next patch prior to this blackout and had been releasing information for the past month on what would be in this upcoming patch. It's not like they just pulled this list out of their bums, they've been working on this stuff since the last patch. This is why I don't understand what this protest was all about (I really tried to, but nothing about this made sense to me).. DICE has been regularly releasing information since the launch of this game.
I haven't really experienced any hit-registration issues, to be honest. I can imagine there may be issues if you don't have an extremely low-latency connection and you're in servers with a ping over 100ms, but I wouldn't exactly say that's the developer's fault (not your fault either). I kind of like the way it is now. It has reduced serious spamming of rocket launchers. I don't mind getting killed by one every now and then, but when someone is using it primarily over their other weapons, it bugs me a little bit.

Yeah, to be honest it seems like all those people just don't know where they're looking for this information. I have the game like I said and didn't play, but I'm just not into Shooters at the moment.
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Supports of this, go buy a console and stop ruining PC gaming for the rest of us. You wanna be immature and act like dice has somehow wronged you, thats fine, you are entitled to interpret reality in a completely scewed way if you want to, but stop acting like your little gaming needs are so important that you should protest the company. Its people like this who dont have the ability to predict the outcome of their actions that do this kind of stupid stuff in the first place. This is not going to help any of the things you people are actually whinning about. If anything this will just make it less likely that we will see EA/Dice make PC games in thee future. BF3 is like one of the best PC games of all time and what do PC games do... protest it. Makes me ashammed to be a PC gamer. You people are an embarassment to all of us and I really dont like being associated with any of you who support this.

In your opinion........
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Originally Posted by FuNkDrSpOt View Post

Funny how capitalism works huh? Since when has a company ever succeeded by suddenly charging more for less?

I'm guessing you haven't purchased any petro-chemicals in say.. the last 50 years, eh?

To save you the effort and drudgery of Google, I'll list a few: BP, Shell, Exxon-Mobil.
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In your opinion........

Was it really supposed to be anyone else's opinion? Who does that? Why would someone post contradictory opinions to their own? People that always try to interject "in your opinion *dotdotdotdot*" after someone posts annoy me to no end. Were you expecting him to post the Queen of England's opinion? What about Dr. Michio Kaku?
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Was it really supposed to be anyone else's opinion? Who does that? Why would someone post contradictory opinions to their own? People that always try to interject "in your opinion *dotdotdotdot*" after someone posts annoy me to no end. Were you expecting him to post the Queen of England's opinion? What about Dr. Michio Kaku?

he said this because the person he was quoting stated his opinion as fact, and he wanted to point out the difference between the two.

too often people just say things are true because they think they are true and misconstrue it as fact.

i actually agree with the person who said "BF3 is like the best PC game ever" on the premise that PC gamers are responsible for the poor shape of pc gaming, but saying "BF3 is like the best PC game ever" actually hurts my argument because saying that makes people take his/her/my side less seriously.
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he said this because the person he was quoting stated his opinion as fact, and he wanted to point out the difference between the two.
too often people just say things are true because they think they are true and misconstrue it as fact.
i actually agree with the person who said "BF3 is like the best PC game ever" on the premise that PC gamers are responsible for the poor shape of pc gaming, but saying "BF3 is like the best PC game ever" actually hurts my argument because saying that makes people take his/her/my side less seriously.

Finally someone on this forum who reads +rep for you
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If you haven't tried the karkand maps, reinstall and try them; the game is actually much better. The biggest problem I have with BF3 are the poor stock maps, when BTK came out I pretty much exclusively played on them. DICE just needs to release more maps that have the same quality as BTK. Sure BF3 removed some key things such as the commander which was a bad move, but they also added in cool stuff such as the soflam which is very useful. I am not really impacted by voip because I play with friends and we use TS, but most servers have their own ts.
I agree. I did the same thing, I played exclusively on B2K 24/7 servers. Only this month have even gone back to vanilla maps, and even then, I can't stand playing on stock maps that aren't Caspian Border. I'm not particularly a huge fan of Operation Firestorm, though I do like the scale of it. Pretty much all other stock maps feel too small to me after B2K.

Also, just a heads up -- Blackout cancelled. Seriously, people were making a bigger deal out of this than it was... requesting updates to the status of bug fixes isn't a very difficult thing to accommodate, but many people in this thread acted like it was these people demanding their ideals be reflected in development or something...
Edited by Maian - 2/27/12 at 1:48pm
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I think some people are being whiny children. They have every right to do what they want and keep everyone in the dark about what they are doing. They have zero obligation to keep anyone posted on patches or other information. Pay your money (or not), play the game (or not) and stop crying...
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The same usual suspects are here to bash EA/DICE clearly without even playing the game.

I will let you know up front i haven't played the game. I will also never attempt to 2nd guess your experience with said game. My point, as stated before, is about gaming as a whole. I am tired of being treated like a beta tester. The last 3 EA games I got were buggy and allow me to share my personal experience on those games:

Dead Space 2 had a few non-game breaking bugs but they way they handled it couldn't have been worse.
- The mulitplayer was completely broken. I dropped every 5 sec to 5 min. Every drop that was in the middle of the game erased everything i did for that map. There was no text communication but mics were on 24/7. There was no way to communicate. There was no way to get in a game with your friends. There was no way to pick a good host based on ping or location
- The SP had bonuses that you were supposed to get if you beat it on the hardest difficulty. I did that and I didn't get my effing hand cannon. I was PO'd, having played through that game with only 3 saves. EA said they wouldn't fix it. It took an anonymous member of the dev team posting a game save on the steam forums to get it 'fixed'

Crysis 2, again not game breaking bugs but stuff that would clear a server easily
- The MP was completely taken over by hackers. They were too late in giving us a votekick. Communication was slow and nearly useless. Server resets were far too common. Orbital strikes would freeze the game for seconds and sometimes lead to a server reset.

DA 2.
Was a rushed POS that would occasionally glitch out.

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I have had bf3 since launch and still play it regularly, use all the vehicles and have tried most of the weapons. At the current moment everything is balanced, I repeat balanced. I see no OP weaponry, no one spams the same gun. Unlike CS not everyone is using a m4 ak or a sniper or cod with the acr. I actually see everyone carrying a diverse assortment. Vehicles are not OP either, infantry can absolutely destroy vehicles if they work together ala javelins and soflams but most people are to stupid to realize this. There is still bugs yes but that is to be expected with a new engine, the bugs are not game breaking either. The only problem on the balance side I can see is the f35 just gets schooled by the russian fighter due the finicky vtol. I am quite shocked and worried they are changing the weapon stats as they might break an already balanced game. What the game really needs is more maps, the launch ones were poor, while karkand is way better there are not enough of them.

If you like it you like it, i'm not gonna tell you different. I hear differently from quite a few players and their feelings align with what i felt during the above games but I have no dog in this fight so all i can do is use past experience as an idea of what camp might echo my concerns the best.
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I'm guessing you haven't purchased any petro-chemicals in say.. the last 50 years, eh?
To save you the effort and drudgery of Google, I'll list a few: BP, Shell, Exxon-Mobil.

I guess you don't know what a variable or a constant is with that type of horrible response. The oil industry, a limited natural resource, and the gaming industry have nearly zero overlap. Their markets are about as different as different can be. Next you'll be comparing clothes makers to utility companies.
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Was it really supposed to be anyone else's opinion? Who does that? Why would someone post contradictory opinions to their own? People that always try to interject "in your opinion *dotdotdotdot*" after someone posts annoy me to no end. Were you expecting him to post the Queen of England's opinion? What about Dr. Michio Kaku?

If you don't understand why i said it then it just shows that you either lack basic reading comprehension or you didn't even bother to read my post and the post i was responding to.
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Did someone mention Valve? ^
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There is a lot of talk of it costing more to develop and sell games now. Where is this extra cost coming from? Most of the game sales are digital at this point and that costs literally nothing for publishers.... host the files on some servers they used to use for games they have discontinued and allow companies like Amazon and Steam to mirror them. It seems to me like it costs a whole heck of a lot less money to make and distribute games these days, for the PC.

Now think about these incremental titles... COD MW3, BF3, etc. They are reusing much of what they already have developed and merely upgrading the graphics. They reuse buildings, guns, vehicles, maps, etc from previous titles with small changes and announce it costs more to make? How so?

I think you've all been brainwashed into believing it really costs more to make and sell games. I expect a complete product when making a purchase. I can live with hardware issues like Crossfire not working but game breaking bugs, glitches and flat out unbalanced gameplay I don't expect to purchase.

I won't buy a shirt missing a sleeve for full price and accept that, "well it pretty much works as designed. You will just have a cold left arm."
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