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I was looking for a new 23"-25" monitor for my Photoshop/3Ds Max work and was on a tight budget of around $300. I went to a few stores and saw monitors like the Samsung PX2370 and a few glossy HP touchscreens. Although those monitors had good reviews and ratings online and were within my budget, I decided to continue looking around just in case I find something better.

So I went to this electronics store at 10am (their opening time) the other day and tried to find their monitors section. Strangely, I couldn't find a monitors section thinking.gif. I asked a salesman and he pointed to a corner that had 3 dusty monitors. One monitor was the HP 2510i and the other turned out to be a touch PC. But there was this 23" monitor covered in dust; neglected in the corner. I asked the salesman about it and he said "well this monitor is a 3D monitor that comes with 2 free 3D glasses and is on a special offer". I generally hated the whole 3D hype and was very annoyed with the flickery glasses that needed to be charged all the time. I thanked the salesman and made my way out of the store to a nearby cafe. I did keep the monitor in mind because it was bright, clear and had amazing colors. I did some research on my iPhone and only found a couple of videos and reviews. I saw the words "Passive 3D" and was curious as to how it is different than the regular 3D I know. I remembered that I have an ATI 5870 video card and I couldn't possibly get 3D capabilities from it.... RIGHT??? Not what this guy said:



I became very interested in Passive 3D technology and came across this video:



Bottom line, I bought the monitor and I'm watching crisp IMAX movies without the flickering and headaches....... using an ATI 5870.

Conclusion: I'm not trying to market this particular monitor or anything more than actually focusing on the beauty (in my opinion) of Passive 3D technology.

Question: What do you guys think? Does anyone have a similar feeling towards Passive 3D? Any other thoughts?
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i need your help (or anyone who owns this monitor):

Hi,
i need your help (HP 2311GT monitor):

does the monitor's menu have 3D options available just like on the LG D2342P where i can select what 3D mode i want from the monitor's own menu ? for example with my previous LG D2342P passive 3D monitor i used to play half sbs movies with BSPlayer then go to the monitor menu & select SBS then the movie will play in 3D.. can i do the this with this monitor ? also if 3D modes are available on the menu then are they only available via HDMI or DVI as well ? because the LG D2342P had more 3D options available if HDMI was used than if DVI was used.

thanks
Edited by as905 - 4/11/12 at 5:13am
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That comparison video by LG was mostly propaganda. My monitor supports lightboost so I can't speak for active 3d which doesn't support lightboost. But the flickering they showed in the video was way overdone, the only time I notice flickering is if I look out the window or at something very bright, I've only owned it for around a month and the weather hasn't been that great so I'm not sure how it is on a very sunny day. The brightness was a problem in non-lightboost monitors but it wasn't anywhere near as bad as LG makes it out to be, with lightboost (and a very bright monitor like the BenQ XL2420T (what I have, ignore rig in my sig)) the screen appears about as bright as a normal tv with 3d on. Also the 60hz in 3d is partially true, 60 frames are delivered to each eye and it doesn't appear as smooth as 120hz but it's smoother than 60hz, appears somewhere around 80-100hz imo. The crosstalk does exist, a lot less on lightboost monitors but I could notice it in high contrast areas (e.g. in half life 2 I noticed it with the modified gravity gun in the dark places of the citadel level, high contrast between the white and dark), once again not as bad as LG showed it to be. The true 240hz is also a lie, it still only accepts a 120hz input but it repeats the frames to appear smoother. And the glasses are better for passive, they're cheaper and lighter, but the nvidia vision 2 ones allow glasses to be worn underneath, and I just tested them and they wouldn't come off when I shook my head.

Passive 3d has its advantages but that video was mostly bull.
Edited by Lost4468 - 4/11/12 at 8:24am
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i need your help (or anyone who owns this monitor):
Hi,
i need your help (HP 2311GT monitor):
does the monitor's menu have 3D options available just like on the LG D2342P where i can select what 3D mode i want from the monitor's own menu ? for example with my previous LG D2342P passive 3D monitor i used to play half sbs movies with BSPlayer then go to the monitor menu & select SBS then the movie will play in 3D.. can i do the this with this monitor ? also if 3D modes are available on the menu then are they only available via HDMI or DVI as well ? because the LG D2342P had more 3D options available if HDMI was used than if DVI was used.
thanks

Hi! There's nothing much in the menu on this monitor. I use Cyberlink DVD software to play 3D SBS movies directly without selecting anything from the monitor's menu i.e. it just works. I think it is safe to say that since no menu is involved, HDMI and DVI will both work (I tested both to confirm).
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That comparison video by LG was mostly propaganda. My monitor supports lightboost so I can't speak for active 3d which doesn't support lightboost. But the flickering they showed in the video was way overdone, the only time I notice flickering is if I look out the window or at something very bright, I've only owned it for around a month and the weather hasn't been that great so I'm not sure how it is on a very sunny day. The brightness was a problem in non-lightboost monitors but it wasn't anywhere near as bad as LG makes it out to be, with lightboost (and a very bright monitor like the BenQ XL2420T (what I have, ignore rig in my sig)) the screen appears about as bright as a normal tv with 3d on. Also the 60hz in 3d is partially true, 60 frames are delivered to each eye and it doesn't appear as smooth as 120hz but it's smoother than 60hz, appears somewhere around 80-100hz imo. The crosstalk does exist, a lot less on lightboost monitors but I could notice it in high contrast areas (e.g. in half life 2 I noticed it with the modified gravity gun in the dark places of the citadel level, high contrast between the white and dark), once again not as bad as LG showed it to be. The true 240hz is also a lie, it still only accepts a 120hz input but it repeats the frames to appear smoother. And the glasses are better for passive, they're cheaper and lighter, but the nvidia vision 2 ones allow glasses to be worn underneath, and I just tested them and they wouldn't come off when I shook my head.
Passive 3d has its advantages but that video was mostly bull.

I don't know anything about lightboost yet and thanks for bringing it up. I've always noticed flickering on those battery-powered glasses, but of course not as much as the LG video shows so yeah it could be overblown (or just to get the idea across). Anyways, I'm really comfortable with this HP monitor and I can wear my normal glasses under the passive 3D glasses that came with it! But hey, I haven't ruled out Active 3D yet as I am yet to check out this "lightboost" and some newer models.
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thank you so much for the helpful reply,unfortunately this monitor although looks nice is not what i'm looking for,on the LG i used to be able to select SBS from the monitors menu which meant i could use my favourite media player (BSPlayer) to play my Half SBS movie files & monitor will merge the movies into 3D. i just simply can not stand using power dvd,inn fact BSPlayer is the only software i like to use & have done so for many years.
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thank you so much for the helpful reply,unfortunately this monitor although looks nice is not what i'm looking for,on the LG i used to be able to select SBS from the monitors menu which meant i could use my favourite media player (BSPlayer) to play my Half SBS movie files & monitor will merge the movies into 3D. i just simply can not stand using power dvd,inn fact BSPlayer is the only software i like to use & have done so for many years.

You're welcome! This is a good entry-level 3D budget monitor so you can't really expect all the gizmos to come with it. I agree that Cyberlink is kind of a pain in the neck, but it does the job (I'll find an alternative)
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You're welcome! This is a good entry-level 3D budget monitor so you can't really expect all the gizmos to come with it. I agree that Cyberlink is kind of a pain in the neck, but it does the job (I'll find an alternative)

3D modes in the menu is no gizmo it should be standard as all other passive monitors has it & its really useful too,i have no idea why HP left it out !! oh well i guess it's back to my ugly active 3D solution, the samsung 23" S23A700D is on offer so i will got for that,at least its 120hz & image quality is excellent for a TN panel.

btw passive 3D is miles miles better than active shutter 3D,i don't know about nvidia's vision 2 which uses brighter screens but the normal active 3D is absolutely sucks in comparison to passive 3D. this is my opinion so don't hate me for it people. smile.gif
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