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Looks good ,thanks for sharing thumb.gif
P.S. i noticed =>CPU PLL Voltage:1.5v
i assume you trying to get your temps down

yea i like my cpu to be as cool as possible so decided to try to drop the other voltages bit by bit with this OC i my chip stays at like 57c prime small ffts
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Hi

I have 4,5 Ghz running with the following BIOS settings (see hardware in sig)
Ofcourse using Offset, using - though instead of +. I do not understand by your post why + would be better?

- load-line calibration : high (50%)
- vrm freq : manual : 350
- phase control : Optimized + EPU enabled and set to auto
- duty control : extreme
- cpu current cap : 110%
- cpu voltage : Offset - 0,030
- dram voltage : 1.50000
- all other voltages (including cpu pll voltage) : AUTO
- multiplier : 45
- blck : 100
- ram timings : filled in timing of my ram (9-9-9-24-2T)
- ram speed : manually set to DDR31600 (speed of my ram)
- enhanced intel speedstep tech : enabled
- turbo mode : enabled
- high precision timer : enabled
- intel adaptive thermal monitor : enabled
- cpu c1e : enabled
- cpu c3 report : enabled
- cpu c6 report : enabled
- CPU Spread Spectrum : auto

I ran prime95 standard blend test for about 45 minutes with above settings and here are some readings with HWiNFO :
- clocks between 4.499,3-4.501,2 mhz
- temp gets to 64 degrees max
- vcore fluctuates between 1,312v - 1,328v
- cpu pll is constant @ 1,800 V
- DDR constant @ 1,500 V
- CPU Package power fluctuates between 85,623W - 90,704W
When idling speed drops to 1600mhz and core voltage fluctuates between 0,936V - 0,960V


Now, can you please enlighten me if this can be improved or not? What settings should def. be changed?
Using BIOS 3101 at the moment (there is 1 newer, but not updated yet)

Thx in advance!
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great write up luke +rep

Let me know and I'll add it to the Essential Reading thread. thumb.gif
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Hi
I have 4,5 Ghz running with the following BIOS settings (see hardware in sig)
Ofcourse using Offset, using - though instead of +. I do not understand by your post why + would be better?
- load-line calibration : high (50%)
- vrm freq : manual : 350
- phase control : Optimized + EPU enabled and set to auto
- duty control : extreme
- cpu current cap : 110%
- cpu voltage : Offset - 0,030
- dram voltage : 1.50000
- all other voltages (including cpu pll voltage) : AUTO
- multiplier : 45
- blck : 100
- ram timings : filled in timing of my ram (9-9-9-24-2T)
- ram speed : manually set to DDR31600 (speed of my ram)
- enhanced intel speedstep tech : enabled
- turbo mode : enabled
- high precision timer : enabled
- intel adaptive thermal monitor : enabled
- cpu c1e : enabled
- cpu c3 report : enabled
- cpu c6 report : enabled
- CPU Spread Spectrum : auto
I ran prime95 standard blend test for about 45 minutes with above settings and here are some readings with HWiNFO :
- clocks between 4.499,3-4.501,2 mhz
- temp gets to 64 degrees max
- vcore fluctuates between 1,312v - 1,328v
- cpu pll is constant @ 1,800 V
- DDR constant @ 1,500 V
- CPU Package power fluctuates between 85,623W - 90,704W
When idling speed drops to 1600mhz and core voltage fluctuates between 0,936V - 0,960V
Now, can you please enlighten me if this can be improved or not? What settings should def. be changed?
Using BIOS 3101 at the moment (there is 1 newer, but not updated yet)
Thx in advance!

-if you are STABLE and you like your temps i don't see the reason to mess with the settings which look pretty good to me ,you can try to disable PLL overvoltage (i don't think it will be necessary for X45 )
-you could try to improve your temps/save energy by adjusting CPU PLL[VCCPLL] (i'm not sure if you have this on AUTO or you just punch in "@1.800" )-you can try to lower this to about 1.71 or lower
here is nice example;
http://www.overclock.net/t/1219588/offset-mode-overclocking-starter-guide-and-thread#post_16640563

as for " I do not understand by your post why + would be better?"
since this guide/thread is about X45 + multi , positive offset value works better it will give you wider range of LLC level ,sure you can run negative but then you will have to include "additional turbo" which will change your VID (see "My X47 positive/negative offset comparison" in OP)
for x45 and negative offset my lowest LLC level have to be HIGH without "additional turbo" in order to match my load/stable Vcore x45 negative LLC High (Click to show)
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great write up luke +rep
Let me know and I'll add it to the Essential Reading thread. thumb.gif

Sure you can add this as long as this thread won't get buried under all others (link will be just fine )
Thank you buddy thumb.gif

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-if you are STABLE and you like your temps i don't see the reason to mess with the settings which look pretty good to me ,you can try to disable PLL overvoltage (i don't think it will be necessary for X45 )
-you could try to improve your temps/save energy by adjusting CPU PLL[VCCPLL] (i'm not sure if you have this on AUTO or you just punch in "@1.800" )-you can try to lower this to about 1.71 or lower
here is nice example;
http://www.overclock.net/t/1219588/offset-mode-overclocking-starter-guide-and-thread#post_16640563
as for " I do not understand by your post why + would be better?"
since this guide/thread is about X45 + multi , positive offset value works better it will give you wider range of LLC level ,sure you can run negative but then you will have to include "additional turbo" which will change your VID (see "My X47 positive/negative offset comparison" in OP)
for x45 and negative offset my lowest LLC level have to be HIGH without "additional turbo" in order to match my load/stable Vcore x45 negative LLC High (Click to show)
450385

Thx for your reply !
CPU PLL is on AUTO at the moment which gives me 1.800 at the moment.
For the part about negative/positive offset I am still abit lost, sorry redface.gif
I am not able to view these .png pictures in the ''My X47 positive/negative offset comparison'' it seems, will check at home if I can see them on my screen.
And what is ''additional turbo'' exactly? Cant seem to find it on my ASUS board mad.gif

Would you recommend to change things around to go to a positive offset value, for the reasons you explained?

Thanks again for your help!
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it's under CPU Power Management/Turbo Ratio (fine adjustment tuning in case you can't dial in with all other settings <+> or <->)
i think i ready somewhere that higher LLC Phase will give you higher VRM temps ,you can try positive and see if it makes worthwhile ,offset is fun,there is few settings you can play with wink.gif

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great write up luke +rep
Let me know and I'll add it to the Essential Reading thread. thumb.gif
Sure as long as this thread won't get buried with all the others (link will work just fine )
Thanks buddy thumb.gif
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it's under CPU Power Management/Turbo Ratio (fine adjustment tuning in case you can't dial in with all other settings <+> or <->)
i think i ready somewhere that higher LLC will give you higher temps (can't tell i'm on H2O sorry ),you can try positive and see if it makes worthwhile ,offset is fun,there is few settings you can play with wink.gif

Damnit, I do not have this option in my BIOS version I am using (3101). i only have Turbo mode parameters options and CPU ratio under cpu power management. Nothing there for Turbo Ratio.
I read in another thread that some new BIOS versions have this option removed.
Anyone can confirm this option is back in the BIOS version 3202 ?


coolhandluke41, I guess that means I am stuck with a negative offset value?
I guess, only thing I could try is lower the LLC and see if that can give me a positive offset value mad.gif

Another question : your custom torture test :

if I understand correctly I should run prime 25 min with 1344 filled in as min and max and have 90% of my ram filled in "mem to use") . Would mean 7370 MB since i have 8gig RAM.
And then do the same test for 25 min, this time filling in 1792 in min and max values with the same ram amount filled in "mem to use".
Is that correct?
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Damnit, I do not have this option in my BIOS version I am using (3101). i only have Turbo mode parameters options and CPU ratio under cpu power management. Nothing there for Turbo Ratio.
I read in another thread that some new BIOS versions have this option removed.
Anyone can confirm this option is back in the BIOS version 3202 ?
coolhandluke41, I guess that means I am stuck with a negative offset value?
I guess, only thing I could try is lower the LLC and see if that can give me a positive offset value mad.gif
Another question : your custom torture test :
if I understand correctly I should run prime 25 min with 1344 filled in as min and max and have 90% of my ram filled in "mem to use") . Would mean 7370 MB since i have 8gig RAM.
And then do the same test for 25 min, this time filling in 1792 in min and max values with the same ram amount filled in "mem to use".
Is that correct?

450
(you better off without additional Turbo)
try this ;
AI OC Tuner: Manual
BLCK: 100
Turbo: per core 45
Internal PLL Overvolt: Disabled
EPU Power Saving: Disabled
Load Line Calibration: Regular
VRM: Manual @350
Phase Control: Optimized
Offset + .03 (may have to adjust this a bit )
Duty Control: T probe
CPU Current: 100%
C1 Enabled
C3 & C6 Disable or enable it's up to you

as for custom i have 5500 so i have little bit left for browsing while under P95
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450
(you better off without additional Turbo)
try this ;
AI OC Tuner: Manual
BLCK: 100
Turbo: per core 45
Internal PLL Overvolt: Disabled
EPU Power Saving: Disabled
Load Line Calibration: Regular
VRM: Manual @350
Phase Control: Optimized
Offset + .03 (may have to adjust this a bit )
Duty Control: T probe
CPU Current: 100%
C1 Enabled
C3 & C6 Disable or enable it's up to you
as for custom i have 5500 so i have little bit left for browsing while under P95

Thanks for helping me man, very much appreciated !
I have something different where you have "additional turbo voltage" - will post later what it is in mine.
EDIT : seems this setting is gone on my BIOS version and I have an additional setting below called : "secondary plane current limit". All is set to auto on mine.
I changed my settings to yours, immediately I notice that my idle voltage is now between 0,992 and 1,016 @ 1600mhz.
Will run the same prime test as yesterday for a while and will report my sensor readings after that ! That way we can compare with the negative offset.
What i know immediately is that my idle voltage is quite abit higher with the positive offset ! Isnt that a bad thing? (idle voltage was 0,936V - 0,960V on negative)

BTW : should I also try lowering CPU PLL voltage to 1.71 like you suggested earlier?


Only ran Prime 12minutes cause I was to eager to post the results biggrin.gif (positive offset of +0,030)

- clocks between 4.499,8 - 4.501,5 mhz
- temp gets to 64 degrees max
- vcore fluctuates between 1,320v - 1,336v
- cpu pll is constant @ 1,800 V
- DDR constant @ 1,500 V
- CPU Package power fluctuates between 85,714W - 90,420W
- When idling speed drops to 1600mhz and core voltage fluctuates between 0,992V - 1,016V


Compared to these results on my previous settings (negative offset of -0,030)

- clocks between 4.499,3-4.501,2 mhz
- temp gets to 64 degrees max
- vcore fluctuates between 1,312v - 1,328v
- cpu pll is constant @ 1,800 V
- DDR constant @ 1,500 V
- CPU Package power fluctuates between 85,623W - 90,704W
- When idling speed drops to 1600mhz and core voltage fluctuates between 0,936V - 0,960V

Conclusion : on positive my idle and load voltages are higher but the max temp is the same. So I guess what I could try now is change the negative offset to -0,020 and change the CPU PLL voltage to 1.71 ? Or you reach to another conclusion and/or suggestion?
Edited by Daffie82 - 3/14/12 at 1:21pm
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