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Well I mean it works no crashes if I use manual voltage. I'm upping the multi to 48 and trying 0.075v positive offset under stress, it loads the OS so here's hoping.

     
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Be kind of nice to get to the bottom of it and find out what is really happening. I just noticed that the VID in both CoreTemp and RealTemp (in my screenshots) is the full speed VID when in High Performance (and the idle VID in Balanced) so it's not just the freq showing differently. We have the same and different motherboards, so it's not just a motherboard issue. I think I'll look at it with ThrottleStop tonight and see what the C-states are doing in the different modes. Even though RealTemp shows the chip downclocking in High Performance, it doesn't go all the way to 1600 (on mine anyway) so something is changing. I should have checked my wall power draw when I was messing with it last night.

Using Realtemp T|I edition, I was also able to confirm that mine goes all the way to C6 even with High Performance mode.
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Well I mean it works no crashes if I use manual voltage. I'm upping the multi to 48 and trying 0.075v positive offset under stress, it loads the OS so here's hoping.

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i need a crazy 0.160V offset for my 4.8ghz, it works, but i dont like the very high pos/neg. offsets,
it goes further tho then a negative offset, but theres a end to positive also..
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I was able to get it to run Prime blend for a few iterations using 0.08 positive offset but it BSOD'd a few second after I dropped the load on the cpu so I'll try disabling the cstates.

 

 

Better Image: http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq233/animer/Readings2.png

The vcore under load is 1.462-1.472v, with a VID of 1.3761. With idle around 1.448.

 

Funny turns out I'm using the 1805 BIOS I'll update it shortly. I noticed my chip is a C1 stepping chip (in BIOS) instead of D2 (which is what CPU-Z says). Also for some reason AI Suite keeps setting the multi at 45 I have to manually change it back to 48.


Edited by phazer11 - 2/14/13 at 11:04am
     
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I was able to get it to run Prime blend for a few iterations using 0.08 positive offset but it BSOD'd a few second after I dropped the load on the cpu so I'll try disabling the cstates.




Better Image: http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/qq233/animer/Readings2.png
The vcore under load is 1.462-1.472v, with a VID of 1.3761. With idle around 1.448.

Funny turns out I'm using the 1805 BIOS I'll update it shortly. I noticed my chip is a C1 stepping chip (in BIOS) instead of D2 (which is what CPU-Z says). Also for some reason AI Suite keeps setting the multi at 45 I have to manually change it back to 48.

uninstall ai suite, and do your oc's direct in the bios, works way better,
if i look at your screenie, you need 0.090V offset,
Vcore1.464 - vid 1.376 = 0.088 =rounded 0.090V offset..

its about load, and what voltages you see most with VID that is for sure..
take the highest vid you see, and your load vcore, normally i use the vcore set in bios to do the math tho

o , image is good enough, i can right click on it, and open in a new window, there it is big enough to read,
i can even adjust or make it bigger if needed in google chrome smile.gif
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Oh no I am doing everything in the bios but I noticed it was maxing out at 4500 MHZ with the new vcore and I was like what? So I checked the TurboV function of Ai Suite and it said 45x. BTW these were the settings I had for my 45x multi.

CPU Voltage: Manual Mode

- CPU Manual Voltage: 1.355v

CPU-Z and RealTemp under Prime 95 Blend Mode Load:

RealTemp VID 1.3561 idle, 1.3611 under load

CPU-Z Core Voltage: 1.336v it has dropped below that occasionally to 1.286v for like half a second (it blinks to 1.286 then back to 1.336v before you can blink sometimes I think I'm seeing things it's gone so fast)
CPU-Z Core Speed: 4523-4524 MHz
CPU-Z Multiplier: 45
CPU-Z Bus Speed: 100.49-100.53 MHz


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Turning LLC up to extreme will require you to use a higher offset to account for c3 and c6 state voltage drop during idle.
Extreme is good for manual voltage with very high overclocks.
Maybe try Medium with offset. That is what I use. It is friendlier with the c3 and c6 idle states.

Also recommend uninstalling AI suite, it is finicky.
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Oh no I am doing everything in the bios but I noticed it was maxing out at 4500 MHZ with the new vcore and I was like what? So I checked the TurboV function of Ai Suite and it said 45x

when i just had my mobo, i installed ET6 on it,
noticed it changed settings again, even when i changed it in bios,
didnt work that good anyways, so i uninstalled it to prevent it..
yea, ocing is best done in bios, instead of using software smile.gif
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Turning LLC up to extreme will require you to use a higher offset to account for c3 and c6 state voltage drop during idle.
Extreme is good for manual voltage with very high overclocks.
Maybe try Medium with offset. That is what I use. It is friendlier with the c3 and c6 idle states.

Also recommend uninstalling AI suite, it is finicky.

yea, using Ctrl + mouse alot biggrin.gif
and i have all my pages open at 150% standard too ..lol

not sure about Turbo and Extreme llc tho, or little or no vdroop
i tried it with different settings, my mobo works nice with it,
but when using extreme i could lower my offset with about 0.015-0.020V

srry, cant find the screenies atm to show it ..
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Ya Extreme LLC will pump more volts than it takes to get near 0.0 v droop. So it actually adds volts to the CPU which in turn requires less offset.
However that also means you are constantly pumping a lot of volts through the CPU circuit. It doesn't back off like the CPU power states do.
That is why I like Medium for 24/7 clocks.
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