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Hey, I got AM2+ currently. I got 2x2GB sticks of ram and a 3core phenom II. I'm thinking of getting the 6core phenom II and 2x4gb sticks of ram to fill my slots and get 12gb of ram. Or should I just get a 2 matching sets of 4gb sticks of ram and go to 16GB of ram?

I currently have 250$ and I'm about to go hit the buy button right now. I was saving for a graphics card but decided I don't need one atm as I'm content with the FPS I can get right now. Instead now I'd like to upgrade my RIG for handling 64bit After Effects plugins and 1080P footage. such as Particular (particle generator, can get really laggy)

I think I'd benefit from the ram greatly, but I am not sure on the CPU upgrade (also how annoying it is to take off the heatsink with those sharp razorblades they put on them lol), would I see a big performance increase?

EDIT//

http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3010&dl=1#ov

hmm, it seems to say AM3 will work on this board, could I possibly get one of the new 8cores then?

Nvm.. I forgot the 8 cores are AM3+ only.

Anyway can't believe the 6 core is out of stock lol
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849

So I'd either be getting that, or:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103995

This, which is considerably cheaper and has a possibility to unlock to 6

and this ram:
DDR1600:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231480
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231534

or:
DDR1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417

(value ram here, is it worth it? It has perfect reviews.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422






My mobo says
4 x 1.5V DDR3 DIMM sockets supporting up to 16 GB of system memory (Note 1)
Dual channel memory architecture
Support for DDR3 1666(OC)/1333/1066 MHz memory modules

Does that mean I can only use up to 1333? But I can OC it higher?

So with the 4 core+ value ram I could get that stuff for 195$

or If I go for the 6core which is out of stock currently, with value ram I'd have to spend 260$
Edited by MiyaDV - 2/23/12 at 6:17am
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the 960T is a outstanding pick but Id recomend going with 2 4gig sticks and tighter Cas like this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231536
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the 960T is a outstanding pick but Id recomend going with 2 4gig sticks and tighter Cas like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231536

^this.

get the 960T. i got one.

for the ram you only need 8 GB. the 1600 will work best for overclocking. i heard/read good things about this . . .

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00592002W/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3/188-0967011-6222910?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_r=1GBSBE2T4W5SYQP7D0G6&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_i=B004BDOT7C

get a good cpu cooler like this - if you have room . . .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835146011

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The MA790XT-UD4P can support DDR3-1600 via the x8 multiplier with no ref clock OC need.  CPU IMC determines whether it will run properly; C3 and E0 revision IMCs can run DDR3-1600 properly.  I know this as I was a previous owner of that board and ran it with both a C2 x4 965 and my sig 1055T.

 

You shouldn't even bother considering that value RAM kit and the Sniper DDR3-1333 kit which are both low quality, low binned generic kits that probably won't do much more than 1333 (impacting OC flexibility); this Patriot 2x4GB DDR3-1600 kit can be had for a lower price than both AND it comes with a free memory card.  If you can get a better-binned DDR3-1600 kit for less, you certainly should.  I don't recommend brand-singularity with RAM because pretty much every RAM brand provides lifetime warranties and some brands/kits are of much better value than others.


Your new RAM should ideally match in speed, timings and voltage to your current kit for best compatibility and chance-of-working.  If not, I recommend you simply replace your current RAM kit; today RAM is cheap anyways.  Most people will never make use of more than 8GB of RAM, let alone 4GB for most tasks.  I regularly edit large HD 1080p video files and I cannot breach the 8GB barrier.


Edited by xd_1771 - 2/23/12 at 8:15am
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This was my first PC I built and I picked G.Skill and it worked so I thought I should try them again though I've had patroit in my old PC and they worked well too I might try that ram.

About the 8GB. I know you think it's enough but it's really not, people load up systems with 32GB or more of ram for these apps so I was hoping to get a bit more. Right now with 4GB of ram I can get about a 20sec preview on 1080P footage in after effects, if it has alot of effects applied even less lol if I had 16GB I could load like 2min preview into the ram and view it. I'm not sure what else it does but everyone usually says "get as much ram as you can get" when I look up adobe products.

I got a noctua heatsink already which keeps my CPU lol like so cool it never gets hot at all but the thing is huge and I have to take it off to add another ram stick then put it under it so it'd be above the ram lol, thats why I'm trying to stay away from ripjaws as they seem kinda big with the heatsinks on them, I tried to stay within the small looking ones, just incase it won't fit.

I was even considering getting two 8GB sticks (cause again I'm not sure if more ram will fit), but they're expensive and not even sure if my mobo supports that

rdr, were you able to unlock it to 6 cores? I haven't looked it up but I heard you could.
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get this RAM..It's ..good! thumb.gif http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Extreme-MV-3V4G3D-US/dp/B00592002W

as for the mobo..eh..not too bad..
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This was my first PC I built and I picked G.Skill and it worked so I thought I should try them again though I've had patroit in my old PC and they worked well too I might try that ram.
About the 8GB. I know you think it's enough but it's really not, people load up systems with 32GB or more of ram for these apps so I was hoping to get a bit more. Right now with 4GB of ram I can get about a 20sec preview on 1080P footage in after effects, if it has alot of effects applied even less lol if I had 16GB I could load like 2min preview into the ram and view it. I'm not sure what else it does but everyone usually says "get as much ram as you can get" when I look up adobe products.
I got a noctua heatsink already which keeps my CPU lol like so cool it never gets hot at all but the thing is huge and I have to take it off to add another ram stick then put it under it so it'd be above the ram lol, thats why I'm trying to stay away from ripjaws as they seem kinda big with the heatsinks on them, I tried to stay within the small looking ones, just incase it won't fit.
I was even considering getting two 8GB sticks (cause again I'm not sure if more ram will fit), but they're expensive and not even sure if my mobo supports that
rdr, were you able to unlock it to 6 cores? I haven't looked it up but I heard you could.

yes, look at my sig. do not expect it to unlock, so you won't be disappointed if it doesn't.
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Oh, you work with After Effects and media; very well, exception noted. I don't work with After Effects myself but I do know it's RAM intensive. The 6 cores will also benefit you.

8GB sticks are relatively new tech and often not as optimized to provide the extra RAM bandwidth you want for these tasks (I.e. most 8GB 1600 DIMMs are CL11)
Edited by xd_1771 - 2/23/12 at 10:16am
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