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My first attempt at overclocking...

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Hey guys, long time lurker here - first time poster.

I've had my current system for almost 2 years now. It's gotten to the point where I feel like I'm falling behind, as yesterday things felt like Molasses, everything was moving in slow motion. I had bought and spent probably way too much when I built the system just so I could have something semi-future proof and was gonna overclock it from day one. A lot of good that did. So I finally decided to overclock it a bit.

Current Setup -

COOLER MASTER HAF 932
MSI 890FXA-GD70 AMD 890FX Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz
Intel X25-M Mainstream SSDSA2M080G2XXX 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
HIS H587F1GDG Radeon HD 5870 (Cypress XT) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler
KINGWIN Lazer LZ-1000 1000W Modular 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC W/ 3-Way LED Switch and Universal Modular Connector

Along with a few other things this cost me $1500 dollars almost 2 years ago, which is almost laughable since a $600 budget system right now would blow this rig away.
Paid $429 for the 5870 and then 3 months later they dropped the 6 series. My Graphics card is still under warranty though, and I think that it may be time for a RMA before that ends.
So now I feel that I'm stuck in between a rock and a hard place. I don't want to start all over, and I don't want to get screwed on something I thought would last me 5+ years.

It's almost like I have knots in my stomach knowing that even the budget Intel CPU setups will completely annihilate something I spent $1500 dollars on.
So onward with my measly attempt to overclock.

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So I got my 3.4GHz up to 3.7GHz. I'm not sure if my Memory Timers are worse or better than before I screwed around with them, maybe someone can tell me.

I had them running at 7-8-7-24, 1.65v @ 1600, and I think I actually made them much worse - but I bet that can be fixed quickly.

So any advice in general about what I should do, just keep the machine and make some slight upgrades here and there. Try and RMA the 5870 and be without a graphics card for a month, just to get a 6970 or 7 Series, or what? What about Overclocking settings, what should I change, can I push some stuff higher, I have plenty of cooling, and the fans aren't even turned up 50% so I can still push it more I think. So fellow Overclockers, help a guy out that has been building computers for 10 years but finally wants to delve into the realm of actually getting serious about the sport. Don't tell me to dump my machine and buy an Intel budget system, as that is the obvious response and maybe in the future I may have to. So people try to stay constructive, and thanks in advance for the help and reassurance. I surely need some right about now.

-Demonblade
post #2 of 13
Most systems slow over time due to junk that gets on the HDD and things that are running in the back ground that really don't need to be. A fresh O/S install will likely improve things considerably if that is an option. Also disable back ground apps that you don't need.

Most people do not need a new PC system every few years but it's impossible to not have your PC be outdated in 6-12 months compared to the latest and greatest. That doesn't mean your current PC needs to be replaced.

I wouldn't try RMA'ing a perfectly good Vid card in hopes of getting an updated model for free. Not only is this unethical it may backfire.

3.7 GHz. from your 965 BE isn't bad. If you want to try more advanced OC'ing the links below should help you along.

http://www.overclock.net/t/902756/amd-overclock-guide-for-newbs

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=596023
Edited by AMD4ME - 2/23/12 at 2:22pm
post #3 of 13
You should be able to take that 965 all the way to 4.0Ghz with a 2.6~ Ghz CPU/NB smile.gif

That should give a good boost.
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Thanks man, very sound advice. You're right about the RMA. I heard it can take upwards of 5-6 weeks, that's just not worth it and I can't anyways because I work from home. So my computer = my money supply. So I certainly couldn't take 6 weeks off work. I'd have to fire myself.

You are also right that pretty much the second you buy something it becomes outdated. I guess that is how it will always be with technology, especially at the rate we are moving at.
Even though we "were supposed to have flying cars by now" but, besides that it's very amazing progress. The electronics industry is booming and will continue booming.

I do eventually want to do a fresh O/S install, the problem I have right now is that HDD prices are through the roof - and I don't have any space for backups. Hopefully by Black Friday I can get a couple new Samsung Spinpoint's and back them up. When people talk about RAID does it have to be 2 similar drives or can it be 2 different ones, say SSD and HDD.

As for my RAM timings, I actually made it slower didn't I?

Also thanks for the links I will definitely check them out, and thanks for the time to respond to my thread.
post #5 of 13
For RAM, you want higher frequency and lower timings.

You can raid any drivers toghether. Usually people use the same model for "ease of use". Let's say you match a 750GB with a 1TB. You will get a 1.5TB "drive" and have ( 250GB wasted on the 1TB drive + formated space )

You want to RAID similar performing drivers. Such as a Spinpoint with another one, but not an SSD with a harddrive.

I assume the SSD is your boot drive. If you do have enough space on the 1TB, back up to that, optionally zero out the drive and re-install the OS.

EDIT: Btw why does it say AM2+?
EDIT 2: Erm. You might wanna update that CPUZ
Edited by Speced - 2/23/12 at 2:51pm
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Ahh, you mean update the program itself, and re post it - sure no problem - what did I miss? I've had that old version of CPU since I built my computer LOL, and I haven't gotten it verified either.
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You don't need to re-post it, the new CPUZ might give more accurate information about the CPU.
It never hurts to use the latest version either smile.gif
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Got it, now it says Socket AM3. thumb.gif
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So my I had my RAM at 7-8-7-24, 2T 1.65v @ 1600, and now it's 9-9-9-24, 1T @ 1.65 - so way slower now?
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When I bought the computer the AMD Phenom II X6 1090T had just dropped, still kicking myself for not going with that over the 965 BE - think it was only 60 dollars more.
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