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The 426 cut-off wheel is reinforced with fiberglass for increased durability and used for cutting metal including hardened steel is the one to use no questions asked, most of the others you spend more time changing wheels then you do cutting.

I myself find it easier to cut round holes with a jigsaw with a 24-36 TPI (teeth per inch) and clean it up with a round file or barrel sander on a dremel Model Number:445


That's excellent advice. I used a Dremel Cutoff Wheel for all of about four inches worth of a linear cut in my steel Antec case and immediately gave up and busted out the die-grinder to do the rest of the cutting. (I was cutting triangular windows out of a side panel, not round holes.) Cutting a round hole with a die-grinder would suck and it wouldn't be all that easy with a Dremel either.

 

 

EDIT: Be aware that die-grinder wheels are considerably larger than dremel wheels and although they last longer and hold up to abuse better, they're not as precise for fine detail work and would, as previously stated, be poor choices for cutting small radius circles. (Larger radius circles should be easy with either tool.)

 

 

It's entirely possible that you could use a hole-saw drill bit to cut a circular hole in the case. Of course, you'd need a dedicated hole saw bit for each size of hole that you were drilling. You'd also need a fairly powerful electric drill to run the hole saw.

 

The Dremels, even with the upgraded 426 cutoff wheels, will still be a laborious process.

 

Polishing up with the Dremel 445 is great advice. +REP


Edited by shad0wfax - 2/23/12 at 7:52pm
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That's excellent advice. I used a Dremel Cutoff Wheel for all of about four inches worth of a linear cut in my steel Antec case and immediately gave up and busted out the die-grinder to do the rest of the cutting. (I was cutting triangular windows out of a side panel, not round holes.) Cutting a round hole with a die-grinder would suck and it wouldn't be all that easy with a Dremel either.


EDIT: Be aware that die-grinder wheels are considerably larger than dremel wheels and although they last longer and hold up to abuse better, they're not as precise for fine detail work and would, as previously stated, be poor choices for cutting small radius circles. (Larger radius circles should be easy with either tool.)


It's entirely possible that you could use a hole-saw drill bit to cut a circular hole in the case. Of course, you'd need a dedicated hole saw bit for each size of hole that you were drilling. You'd also need a fairly powerful electric drill to run the hole saw.

The Dremels, even with the upgraded 426 cutoff wheels, will still be a laborious process.

Polishing up with the Dremel 445 is great advice. +REP

correct is SUX really bad cutting round holes with a die grinder / dremel , a round hole saw to cut 120mm fan holes are around 45.00usd a cheap jigsaw even if you use it for 1 project is 19.99
Dremels have their use in case modding but very little most everything you can use a jigsaw and 31TPI blade and go slow and predrill with a bit large enough to start the jigsaw blade.
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I dont mind that's the dremel will be slow means that there
Is less chance I will make a mistake so the disc I linked
In he op will cut steel also since this is my first mod I would
Pref using a dremel since it is easier to control.
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I dont mind that's the dremel will be slow means that there
Is less chance I will make a mistake so the disc I linked
In he op will cut steel also since this is my first mod I would
Pref using a dremel since it is easier to control.


As AMD_Freak pointed out, the Dremel Number 426 cutoff wheels are better than the Dremel 420 cutoff wheels for cutting steel.

 

And I don't think you understand how slow this is going to be. If you use that 420 wheel, you're going to go through the entire wheel after about six inches of cutting because the wheel will wear out. It will take quite a long time and you'll probably drain the charge on your Dremel Stylus battery too. The reason for this is that cutting through fairly heavy gauge steel with the Dremel 420 wheels requires a high RPM and light pressure. If you put too much pressure on it to cut faster, you'll stall out your Stylus motor.

 

It's maddeningly inefficient to make large cuts with the Dremel and the circumference of your 120mm holes are nearly 15 inches. My guess is that you'll go through 2 cutoff wheels per hole, assuming that you don't break the cutoff wheel trying to cut a circle.

 

Follow AMD_Freak's advice and go for a jig-saw or else follow my advice and buy a hole-saw for a drill. (This assumes that you have a drill.) There are advantages and disadvantages to both options, but both options are superior to using a Dremel for what you're doing.

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ok ill go down to my local hardware and see if they got any 120mm hole saw for a drill
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I dont mind that's the dremel will be slow means that there
Is less chance I will make a mistake so the disc I linked
In he op will cut steel also since this is my first mod I would
Pref using a dremel since it is easier to control.

jigsaw is easier to control then dremel at least for me 1 slip of the dremel it will leave a nasty cut mark, where a jigsaw you just have to clean up the radius of the hole a little if you get off the line, and jigsaw makes better radius cuts. esp on a case window / blow holes in the top where the finish is, I also recommend you taping up everything in the cutting area with blue painters tape no matter if your using a dremel or jigsaw. take a look at my signature pics I did about 2 weeks ago. I did most all the cutting etc in less then 45min with a jig saw including the top rad mount the middle divider , bottom blow holes

the disk you linked will cut metal but they are not reinforced and break super easy to cut 1 blow hole I estimate it will take 15 disk where the ones I linked will take 1-2 at best

I hate to tell you not to do something but IMO I would look a other means to cut radius holes with either a jigsaw or hole saw , if you buy a hole saw make sure you get a good one with harden steel teeth
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http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-545D-545-Diamond-Wheel/dp/B00004UDI9

Get a Diamond cut off wheel, you will probably only need 1 for many, many cuts.
The resin disks , fiberglass or not will wear down as they grind until there is nothing left you will be constantly changing them due to wear.
The diamond disks will cut through any metals as well as ceramic and glass.
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http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-545D-545-Diamond-Wheel/dp/B00004UDI9
Get a Diamond cut off wheel, you will probably only need 1 for many, many cuts.
The resin disks , fiberglass or not will wear down as they grind until there is nothing left you will be constantly changing them due to wear.
The diamond disks will cut through any metals as well as ceramic and glass.

I liked the diamond cutting wheels and work great but for what I was doing they was to small and wanted to jump out if the grove-cutting area
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ok just got back from local hardware store they had nothing that could cut a 120mm hole so im just going to use the dremel idc if it takes me like 2hrs i really world pref the dremel plus the disc for dremel are fairly cheap
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jigsaw is easier to control then dremel at least for me 1 slip of the dremel it will leave a nasty cut mark, where a jigsaw you just have to clean up the radius of the hole a little if you get off the line, and jigsaw makes better radius cuts. esp on a case window / blow holes in the top where the finish is, I also recommend you taping up everything in the cutting area with blue painters tape no matter if your using a dremel or jigsaw. take a look at my signature pics I did about 2 weeks ago. I did most all the cutting etc in less then 45min with a jig saw including the top rad mount the middle divider , bottom blow holes

the disk you linked will cut metal but they are not reinforced and break super easy to cut 1 blow hole I estimate it will take 15 disk where the ones I linked will take 1-2 at best

I hate to tell you not to do something but IMO I would look a other means to cut radius holes with either a jigsaw or hole saw , if you buy a hole saw make sure you get a good one with harden steel teeth



This is great advice. EDIT: No hole saws available in his area.

 

Your advice about painter's tape is spot-on. I used painter's tape for my case-mod as well, and I didn't even need to re-finish after I cut and de-burred. I left a very neat and consistent sized silver stripe, about 0.5mm wide, along every cut from the de-bur process and it added a nice silver accent around each hole to my black case. My case-mod is not anywhere near as pretty as yours is; I was concerned more with air-flow function rather than form, but without the painter's tape, I would have made a real mess of my case.

 

Another advantage to painter's tape is that you can draw your cutting lines on it and get an idea of how your case will look in a mock-up before you cut into it. I actually changed my triangular hole arrangement some after I mocked it up with the tape and a straight edge.


 

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http://www.amazon.com/Dremel-545D-545-Diamond-Wheel/dp/B00004UDI9

Get a Diamond cut off wheel, you will probably only need 1 for many, many cuts.
The resin disks , fiberglass or not will wear down as they grind until there is nothing left you will be constantly changing them due to wear.
The diamond disks will cut through any metals as well as ceramic and glass.


This is also good advice, but since he has a cordless Dremel Stylus, he's going to eat his battery for breakfast and possibly the motor for lunch. In my opinion, his Dremel Stylus should only be used for finishing work de-burring his hole(s).

 

EDIT: With no hole saws available, and given the battery life and motor life issue of the Dremel Stylus, I suggest that the OP look for a cheap small jig-saw like AMD_Freak mentioned. Although these wheels are great for the purpose, by all accounts, he's still going to have battery and possibly motor life issues.


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