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I traded my old 4+1 phase motherboard for a 8+2 phase and now I am having stability problems when overclocking.

On my 4+1 phase board, I was able to get a stable 4Ghz on the CPU clock and pass Prime95 blend test until I had to stop due to VRM temps (about 20 minutes). But I ran stock timings for normal use other than benching.

Now that I have a 8+2 Phase board, I was sure I would be able to hold 4Ghz for 24/7 use but that is not the case. I wasn't able to get a stable 4.0Ghz. So I got the highest stable overclock I could, 3.8Ghz capable of running prime95 blend test for over an hour with the RAM at 1720Mhz. I have noticed while watching my voltage in CPU-Z and Asus AI Suite, that the voltage drops quite a bit regardless of LLC being on or off.

While playing BF3, it started bugging out, 1 second freezes, and some lag. I figured it may have been because I was currently installing SP1 for Win7 in the background. I restarted so the service pack could install, and after the BIOS splash screen, it tells me unstable overclock.

I know for a fact that my 1100T can do 4Ghz stable at <1.475V 200bus x20 on my old board which wasn't even meant for overclocking. Would this instability be caused my the motherboard or some other problem?


Current motherboard: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A88TDV_EVOUSB3/#specifications
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Every mobo is different, even if they are the same model... in your case, it's a different mobo, it will require you to re-tweak the voltages (BIOS settings) to make 4GHz stable again! tongue.gif

 

Using the same settings from the 4+1 phase mobo would most likely not get you the same result for the 8+2 phase mobo... teaching.gif

 

Your current one might require more or less voltages compared to the old one. wink.gif

 

Hope this helps! thumb.gif

     
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I have tried from 1.44V to 1.5V to get 4Ghz. Also, my brother tried adjusting bus speeds to try a different approach of overclocking other than just multiplier.

I guess I will just have to spend some time tweeking it this weekend. Temps were never a problem. Idles at 20°C and load at 38°C at 3.9Ghz which was Prime95 stable until this happened yesterday.
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Originally Posted by Shaded War View Post

I have tried from 1.44V to 1.5V to get 4Ghz. Also, my brother tried adjusting bus speeds to try a different approach of overclocking other than just multiplier.

I guess I will just have to spend some time tweeking it this weekend. Temps were never a problem. Idles at 20°C and load at 38°C at 3.9Ghz which was Prime95 stable until this happened yesterday.


Instability is not only caused by under-volting but also by over-volting. rolleyes.gif

 

I don't have much experience in overclocking AMD chips... but the principles should be the same for all. wink.gif

 

Wish you good luck in fine tuning the BIOS settings. thumb.gif

 

 

 


Edited by ocman - 2/24/12 at 6:18pm
     
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I still think it may be the motherboard. My brother who had this motherboard before me wasnt able to get his Phenom II 955 at 4Ghz stable and he has much more overclocking experiance than me. At the time we figured it was the CPU but two chips that can't overclock on this board seems a bit strange to me.

I guess I'll have to find out this weekend when I have some time.
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Instability is not only caused by under-volting but also by over-volting. rolleyes.gif

I'm don't have much experience in overclocking AMD chips... but the principles should be the same for all. wink.gif

Wish you good luck in fine tuning the BIOS settings. thumb.gif



Never heard of that before, maybe degredation but not instability.
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Never heard of that before, maybe degredation but not instability.
 


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I think I would blame the chipset.  Did your old board have an IGP on it or not?  Boards with IGPs on it normally are not expected to OC as well.

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I think I would blame the chipset.  Did your old board have an IGP on it or not?  Boards with IGPs on it normally are not expected to OC as well.

Both have integrated Radeon HD 4250. Would that cause a problem even if it is disabled?
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Both have integrated Radeon HD 4250. Would that cause a problem even if it is disabled?


I still have a Mach Speed Matrix P4M800 (A re-branded mobo from Biostar)... that has an integrated graphics... It was never good at overclocking my Celeron D 340... I was only able to overclock the cpu from 2.93 to 3.2GHz stable... While the lack of options to tweak voltages was certainly a big contribution to its failure. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

     
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