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8/21/12 at 4:34am
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Well unless you are getting a smoke deal on some IL chips I'd stick to MC if you can. A 4P 6128 system is the best bang for buck setup you can get right now. But I won't complain no matter what you go with biggrin.gif
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8/21/12 at 4:50am
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Well I don't have a solid price yet, 250€ for the 16C chips is just a rough estimate my uncle gave me. IMO it's a very nice deal on chips that have been used for under 100 hours and are over 500 bucks on newegg.
I'll promise to look into the 6128's if this doesn't work out even though I don't think I will be going 4P. I want to keep it under 1500€ (less is better), and also use the PSU I have now so it won't go to waste if I go 2-way on GPUs. I'm aware that MC's are considered to be the best (AMD) chips for folding. Would the MC chips work on the ASUS board you linked earlier, looks like I might be able to get that one for 300.
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8/21/12 at 4:52am
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Yeah that board supports both MC & IL.

6128s are going for $150 now on US eBay. I'm sure one of your fellow folders would be willing to build you a system for cheap in the US and ship it to you smile.gif

I think a 4P 6128 system can be had for $1500 USD if you shop around smartly.
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8/21/12 at 6:01am
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Yeah that board supports both MC & IL.
6128s are going for $150 now on US eBay. I'm sure one of your fellow folders would be willing to build you a system for cheap in the US and ship it to you smile.gif
I think a 4P 6128 system can be had for $1500 USD if you shop around smartly.

if there are 2 people, i would like that biggrin.gif but i wouldn't get a new rig then sad-smiley-002.gif
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8/21/12 at 9:22am
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I've now started pricing out single and dual-socket G34 systems...

Derick, do you use the 8-core or 12-core processors, and which chipset would you recommend for each?

Also, price and power wise, how does G34 compare to Intel's server offering?
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I've now started pricing out single and dual-socket G34 systems...

Derick, do you use the 8-core or 12-core processors, and which chipset would you recommend for each?

Also, price and power wise, how does G34 compare to Intel's server offering?

If you're looking at single and dual socket systems then Intel wins performance wise.
Should be helpful http://www.anandtech.com/show/5553/the-xeon-e52600-dual-sandybridge-for-servers/10 , tho for the price of a single/dual socket Intel, you could build a dual/quad G34 which would perform better, depending on what you're using it for.
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I've now started pricing out single and dual-socket G34 systems...
Derick, do you use the 8-core or 12-core processors, and which chipset would you recommend for each?
Also, price and power wise, how does G34 compare to Intel's server offering?

can you post prices here? i do want a folding farm. not JUST because of 2p/4P, but also because of the lotsa PPD you can get.
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8/21/12 at 9:44am
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Well I don't have a solid price yet, 250€ for the 16C chips is just a rough estimate my uncle gave me. IMO it's a very nice deal on chips that have been used for under 100 hours and are over 500 bucks on newegg.
I'll promise to look into the 6128's if this doesn't work out even though I don't think I will be going 4P. I want to keep it under 1500€ (less is better), and also use the PSU I have now so it won't go to waste if I go 2-way on GPUs. I'm aware that MC's are considered to be the best (AMD) chips for folding. Would the MC chips work on the ASUS board you linked earlier, looks like I might be able to get that one for 300.
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Yeah that board supports both MC & IL.
6128s are going for $150 now on US eBay. I'm sure one of your fellow folders would be willing to build you a system for cheap in the US and ship it to you smile.gif
I think a 4P 6128 system can be had for $1500 USD if you shop around smartly.

I agree! Buying used can save you a crazy amount of money, and I know it'd be possible to get it for under 1500 euro. Sounds like you have access to some awesome deals biggrin.gif
(e.g. that board for 300 would be sweet, couldn't find mine used)
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8/21/12 at 9:53am
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I've now started pricing out single and dual-socket G34 systems...
Derick, do you use the 8-core or 12-core processors, and which chipset would you recommend for each?
Also, price and power wise, how does G34 compare to Intel's server offering?

can you post prices here? i do want a folding farm. not JUST because of 2p/4P, but also because of the lotsa PPD you can get.

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~$1000 Budget (Click to show)
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2x AMD MC 6128 8 Core Processors - $100 each - eBay

Supermicro H8DGU - $350 or TYAN S8236GM3NR - $450

RAM - 2 Sets of these - $60 each

Cooling - 2xCM 212+s - $30 each These will for sure be mountable on the SuperMicro board, I need to do further research on the Tyan Board.

PSU - Anything above a 650W will be good. ~$150

Throw in an old HDD you have laying around and you're good to go.

Total: $880-$980, not including shipping.

This section still needs some more work as I haven't done a whole lot of research on 2P boards myself.

~$1500 Budget (Click to show)
Part List::

4x AMD MC 6128 8 Core Processors - $100 each - eBay

/Supermicro H8QGL-IF - $640

RAM - 4 Sets of these - $60 each

Cooling - 4xCM 212+s - $30 each

PSU - Again your choice, just get a quality brand, I would recommend at least 850W. 1200W if you want to have the most efficiency possible.

HDD - Same thing, anything you have laying around works.

Total: $1400+PSU, not including shipping

Probably going to be a little bit above $1500, but for that budget this is the best you can build, it'd be worth it to stretch it another $100 wink.gif

~$2000 Budget (Click to show)
Part List:

Now here is where it gets a little awkward because it's between a 4p 6174 board and a 4p 6128 board. But it's right in the middle... Probably your best option is to take the $1500 build, and switch out 4 6128s for 2 6174s. You aren't going to get as much PPD, but this leaves great opportunities to expand to a full on 4p 6174 system as money becomes available.

Will work on other options for this build later tongue.gif

~$3000 Budget (Click to show)
Part List:

4x AMD MC 6174 12 Core Processors - $450-$470each - eBay

/Supermicro H8QGL-IF - $640

RAM - 4 Sets of these - $60 each

Cooling - 4xCM 212+s - $30 each

PSU - Again your choice, just get a quality brand, I would recommend at least 850W. 1200W if you want to have the most efficiency possible.

HDD - Same thing, anything you have laying around works.

Total: $2800+PSU

>$3000 budget (Click to show)
Part List:

4x AMD IL 6274 16 Core Processors - $550-$570each - eBay

/Supermicro H8QGL-IF - $640

RAM - 4 Sets of these - $60 each

Cooling - 4xCM 212+s - $30 each

PSU - Again your choice, just get a quality brand, I would recommend at least 850W. 1200W if you want to have the most efficiency possible.

HDD - Same thing, anything you have laying around works.

Total: $3200+PSU
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6128s are going for $150 now on US eBay. I'm sure one of your fellow folders would be willing to build you a system for cheap in the US and ship it to you smile.gif
Hell, I'd do it just for the fun of it. Shipping insurance would be a must though... And not sure what import taxes would be like.
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