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Go to the Ivy Bridge club and ask. there are tons of reported cases. just ask.

I don't need to ask something that is so obvious, it was just a user error.
post #1962 of 6121
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Go to the Ivy Bridge club and ask. there are tons of reported cases. just ask.

I don't need to ask something that is so obvious, it was just a user error.
no, it's not. It's happened repeatedly. Lemme go get some proof...
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post #1964 of 6121
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no, it's not. It's happened repeatedly. Lemme go get some proof...

Lets not derail this Awesome build and make a new thread with your findings but i just wanted to point something out, think about what you are saying and how would it be possible to change the chip silicon characteristics to affect how the cpu overclocks.
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no, it's not. It's happened repeatedly. Lemme go get some proof...

Lets not derail this Awesome build and make a new thread with your findings but i just wanted to point something out, think about what you are saying and how would it be possible to change the chip silicon characteristics to affect how the cpu overclocks.
I'm not gonna begin to question the characteristics of the chip. It could be any number of factors relating to the fact that the chip is sealed in whatever surroundings they choose until you delid it.
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post #1966 of 6121
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Lets not derail this Awesome build and make a new thread with your findings but i just wanted to point something out, think about what you are saying and how would it be possible to change the chip silicon characteristics to affect how the cpu overclocks.

The thing is that with Ivy Bridge the TIM is causing the temps on the die to be "quite high", even under LN2, delidd the chip and change over to a better TIM will cause a lower die temp and may give some extra Mhz. That not sure this was what phillyd was talking about.
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The thing is that with Ivy Bridge the TIM is causing the temps on the die to be "quite high", even under LN2, delidd the chip and change over to a better TIM will cause a lower die temp and may give some extra Mhz. That not sure this was what phillyd was talking about.

that is a whole different story and i would agree lowering temps would help increase overclock but phillyd is saying and i quote
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de-lidding the CPU has shown to decrease max overclocks. people hit an impassible wall at about 4.7-5.0GHz
stating that once you remove the lid and put X TIM on there and put the lid back on it will not allow you overclock as high as you did before and note that it wasn't due to it being hotter to not allow you to go as high in your overclock but that you somehow changed the characteristics of the cpu itself.
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that is a whole different story and i would agree lowering temps would help increase overclock but phillyd is saying and i quote stating that once you remove the lid and put X TIM on there and put the lid back on it will not allow you overclock as high as you did before and note that it wasn't due to it being hotter to not allow you to go as high in your overclock but that you somehow changed the characteristics of the cpu itself.

Read the whole thing wrong, it might decrease the max clock but then it would be due to a bad mount of the IHS. If the IHS is mounted properly with a TIM that's the same or better then i would assume that the max clocks would stay the same or increase. If it fact the max overclock was lowered then i would say that the IHS does not have good contact with the die.
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If you do, remember de-lidding the CPU has shown to decrease max overclocks. people hit an impassible wall at about 4.7-5.0GHz on delidded ones where with chillers they may have been near 5.3-5.5GHz
so the better temps are for nothing.

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Read the whole thing wrong, it might decrease the max clock but then it would be due to a bad mount of the IHS. If the IHS is mounted properly with a TIM that's the same or better then i would assume that the max clocks would stay the same or increase. If it fact the max overclock was lowered then i would say that the IHS does not have good contact with the die.

Ok i just want you to get the facts straight, nowhere does he state that they hit a wall due to heat so please stop assuming things. He just said that if you de-lid the cpu you will not be able to overclock as high as before, maybe im being to literal but i just don't want other OCners to get the wrong idea from false facts. This is OCN we strive for perfection, lets get back to the awesome build we already taken up two pages oh is build. Sorry derick. redface.gif
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Ok i just want you to get the facts straight, nowhere does he state that they hit a wall due to heat so please stop assuming things. He just said that if you de-lid the cpu you will not be able to overclock as high as before, maybe im being to literal but i just don't want other OCners to get the wrong idea from false facts. This is OCN we strive for perfection, lets get back to the awesome build we already taken up two pages oh is build. Sorry derick. redface.gif

Aight m8, he has 195 other pages that is on topic so should be fine, also he is a Norwegian so he has to love some off topic gibberish. tongue.gif
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