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Poll Results: Which should I choose?

 
  • 19% (8)
    a. Upgrade to a i7 980 = $589 and call it a day.
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    b. Upgrade to a i7 3930 = $600, and a Alienware mobo (who knows how much this could cost)
  • 80% (34)
    c: Upgrade to a i7 3930, forget the lights, and get a top shelf 2011 board. (Last ditch option)
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.........sell the parts piecemeal on ebay and use the funds to buy a new 1155 or 2011 computer.

2011 is an utter waste if you are just planning on gaming though.
Look at benchmarks if you don't believe me.
    
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Originally Posted by Cancer View Post

.........sell the parts piecemeal on ebay and use the funds to buy a new 1155 or 2011 computer.
2011 is an utter waste if you are just planning on gaming though.
Look at benchmarks if you don't believe me.

I am looking to do a lot more than gaming, I use a lot of business apps, CS5, encoding video and audio, and some gaming. I also would gain USB 3.0 and the SATA 6GB/s technology from a new board. Seems 2011 is the way to go, I have to decide on do I want to build a system and sell my Alienware or get a mATX board and a 3930K and install it in my system.

From what I am gathering, the mobo and CPU upgrade is a more cost effective route, still gathering some info.
post #23 of 56
I was wondering this as well, I have i7-920@3.7Ghz. Currently I can do 25-30fps compression with 4 cores, so no gaming at the same time. 6 cores would be so and so... prolly requires ~4.5Ghz overclock aswell to retain 30 minimum fps for recording.

But I decided to wait for intel 8 cores(3.5-4Ghz, hopefully with stock voltage) . Then I can play and compress the recorded video strait into small size good quality end format (1080p 30fps ~15Mbps(youtubeable)) on the fly.

Altough this plan is flawed if/when games start to fully use more than 3 cores... Then it's back to high bitrate(200Mbps) low quality compress recordings(2 cores), still ~10-25MB/s is a lot more nicer than ~100-200MB/s raw, couldn't see any difference in the end quality.
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I am looking to do a lot more than gaming, I use a lot of business apps, CS5, encoding video and audio, and some gaming. I also would gain USB 3.0 and the SATA 6GB/s technology from a new board. Seems 2011 is the way to go, I have to decide on do I want to build a system and sell my Alienware or get a mATX board and a 3930K and install it in my system.
From what I am gathering, the mobo and CPU upgrade is a more cost effective route, still gathering some info.

Well....sandybridge 1155 does have usb 3.0 and sata III (6gb) you know? The same amount of stock ports as 2011 if I remember correctly.

Are these "business apps" even multithreaded?
Encoding video/audio in and of it self I don't see a point of going for 6/12 cores....editing video on the other hand sure.
Have you considered buying a GPU that can compute instead of an overkill CPU (sandy-e)?

I seem to recall sandybridge being competitive with 1366 but not better.....on the third hand you do not have the best 1366 chip so it could potentially be a wash between sockets for you.

At any rate if you can wait a few months......ivy bridge versus sandybridge enhanced should be worth looking into..........
    
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Well....sandybridge 1155 does have usb 3.0 and sata III (6gb) you know? The same amount of stock ports as 2011 if I remember correctly.
Are these "business apps" even multithreaded?
Encoding video/audio in and of it self I don't see a point of going for 6/12 cores....editing video on the other hand sure.
Have you considered buying a GPU that can compute instead of an overkill CPU (sandy-e)?
I seem to recall sandybridge being competitive with 1366 but not better.....on the third hand you do not have the best 1366 chip so it could potentially be a wash between sockets for you.
At any rate if you can wait a few months......ivy bridge versus sandybridge enhanced should be worth looking into..........

Yes, I am aware of the 1155 with the same requirements I am looking for. I was considering the 1155 route, it would be easier and cheaper actually. I can get a 1155 Alienware OEM board for about $160, and then a i7 2600K for $300 which would be much cheaper and ensure full compatibility on my Alienware. Tactically speaking, that would be a much less expensive than the 2011 or 1366 upgrade route (approx $460 vs $1000-1100) and get my system up to faster speeds and newer technology and I could wait for Ivy Bridge for a few months. On top of that, I could sell my i7 920 and old board and recoup some expense. On Ebay a used 1366 Alienware board goes for average of $100, and an i7 920 around $100-$150. Good point, that puts another option on the table.

I could just wait and do nothing as both Nvidia and Intel are coming with new lines, but if I go that route I think I would build a PC at that point. I think I will upgrade to 1155, and wait to see what comes out later this year. I can then sell my Alienware for a higher price point with newer hardware but keep my SSD, and build a system with Ivy bridge.

Choices, gotta love em.
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Yes, I am aware of the 1155 with the same requirements I am looking for. I was considering the 1155 route, it would be easier and cheaper actually. I can get a 1155 Alienware OEM board for about $160, and then a i7 2600K for $300 which would be much cheaper and ensure full compatibility on my Alienware. Tactically speaking, that would be a much less expensive than the 2011 or 1366 upgrade route (approx $460 vs $1000-1100) and get my system up to faster speeds and newer technology and I could wait for Ivy Bridge for a few months. On top of that, I could sell my i7 920 and old board and recoup some expense. On Ebay a used 1366 Alienware board goes for average of $100, and an i7 920 around $100-$150. Good point, that puts another option on the table.
I could just wait and do nothing as both Nvidia and Intel are coming with new lines, but if I go that route I think I would build a PC at that point. I think I will upgrade to 1155, and wait to see what comes out later this year. I can then sell my Alienware for a higher price point with newer hardware but keep my SSD, and build a system with Ivy bridge.
Choices, gotta love em.

You do not want an alienware board for that much (just a overgrown dell), For 160 you could get a nice asus or gigabyte. thumb.gif
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You do not want an alienware board for that much (just a overgrown dell), For 160 you could get a nice asus or gigabyte. thumb.gif

I agree with you, but the problem with that, I would have to troubleshoot the lights (MIO board) and the ACC software issues. Also, if I stay with the Alienware case, I would be limited to a mATX board, ATX won't fit...mad.gif I am looking for a path to get off the Alienware ranch eventually but at the same time upgrade for a better selling point when the time comes. Goodness, I feel like I am on a tightrope, I am just going to build my own systems from now on. I will have more control over what I want/don't want, lower prices, and no constraints.

Being that I have an iMac 27, I just want to keep one high performance PC, and it.
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Here's a red blooded mATX board http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/Maximus_IV_GENEZ/ What are the light issues you speak of?
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Here's a red blooded mATX board http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/Maximus_IV_GENEZ/ What are the light issues you speak of?

The lights are the lights on the sides and front of the Alienware systems. From the ACC software and the MIO board, you can control color, pattern, and sequence of what lights are on your case. Now from I read, you can hook up the MIO board via the on-board USB port to the ASUS Gene, but several people that went that route said they had intermittent issues with the lights responding, etc. I was wondering about my Asetek liquid cooler, but after talking with a couple of guys that took the plunge, it fits with no problem.

I know of the Gene mATX line, they have a KILLER 2011 board but do I want to take the plunge to troubleshoot possible problems or will it work with the MIO board, is the question I have in my mind. The 2011 Asus Gene goes for $289.

Now if go this route, the cost would be $289 (board) + $589 (processor) = $880...which brings me back to my original solution on choice C. biggrin.gif The only thing after I do that, is to upgrade the graphics card later. I would have to figure out the MIO board (lights) hook-up.

Oh, BTW I found out the cost on an Alienware R4 (2011) board, over $600 quoted from Dell. No dice on that. tongue.gif
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