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post #1 of 47
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I just received my PowerColor 7970 (AX7970 3GBD5-M2DHG) from newegg, and I have a problem and am now super bummed frown.gif The card is _supposed_ to be reference (the model number is a reference board model number...so it makes this even more confusing), which is what I _wanted_ because I watercool, but there isn't an AMD stamp on the PCB. I called PowerColor and they assure me the board design is the same as the reference and the EK block does fit, it just simply doesn't have the AMD stamp. They even told me to see for myself at coolingconfigurator.com, which I had already done, and it does claim it fits that model.

So, to me, at least, the lack of stamp means they changed something, and it's not _truly_ reference. Coolingconfigurator claims the board will fit my EK block, and PowerColor assures me that it will fit as well. So the question remains, what all did they change? My fear is that they replaced the AMD reference spec'd parts with cheaper, less overclock-able parts. But I really don't know.

Near the golden fingers on the PCB it says LF R19FA, similar to their revised vortex cards, and it has two boxes referring to the memory, one says 1.5G and the other says 3G, the 3G is checked. So this is obviously not a reference board.

Should I return it? Or just use it?
Edited by svthomas - 2/24/12 at 9:16pm
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post #2 of 47
well I don't know what to tell you, but here is an image of a reference 7970. maybe you can see if anything is difference other than the PCB color and the AMD stamp.

http://www.koolance.com/technical/video_card_pcb_layouts/pcb_amd_radeon_hd7970_reference.jpg

or

http://imageshack.us/f/201/7970referance.jpg/

also for more info about reference cards here is this website:-
http://www.koolance.com/technical/video_card_pcb_layouts/comparison_photos.html
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post #3 of 47
Every 7970 being sold is a 3G (referring to the amount of memory) right now - i don't see them selling the 1.5 until they need a price drop. If they say its reference design that means that all the parts are in the same place, and you can't fault them if the block fits. I don't really see them wanting to make a bad name for themselves by putting "inferior" parts on their top of the line GPU, so I would just go with it and see how it does.
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post #4 of 47
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Well just thinking aloud, but I wonder if they fixed the capacitor squeal the reference 7970s are having...hmmm

I am certainly going to take some high res photos of the board tonight and post them--I will use a Nikon D5100 to hopefully capture enough detail. Maybe someone with more experience in this regard will be willing to help me identify the differences? biggrin.gif
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post #5 of 47

There are only two Powercolor 7970. One is Dirt3 (AX7970 3GBD5-M2DHG) and the other one regular (AX7970 3GBD5-2DH).

 

http://www.powercolor.com/global/products_layer_2.asp?SeriesID=79&Page=1

 

powercolor-radeon-7970-dirt3.jpg

 

 

 

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/images/front_full.jpg

 

click?format=go&key=7777bc3c17029328d03146e0ed767841&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overclock.net%2Ft%2F1220283%2Freference-powercolor-7970-isnt-reference-need-advice%2F10&v=1&libid=1330337183065&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techpowerup.com%2Freviews%2FAMD%2FHD_7970%2Fimages%2Ffront_full.jpg&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overclock.net%2Ft%2F1220283%2Freference-powercolor-7970-isnt-reference-need-advice%2F30&title='Reference'%20PowerColor%207970%20isn't%20reference%2C%20need%20Advice.&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.techpowerup.com%2Freviews%2FAMD%2FHD_7970%2Fimages%2Ffront_full.jpg&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13303372108041

 

 

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1220283/reference-powercolor-7970-isnt-reference-need-advice/10

 

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post #6 of 47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken1649 View Post

There are only two Powercolor 7970. One is Dirt3 and the other one regular.

http://www.powercolor.com/global/products_layer_2.asp?SeriesID=79&Page=1
powercolor-radeon-7970-dirt3.jpg

This is the model number I ordered:
http://powercolor.com/us/products_features.asp?id=386

This is where I ordered it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131452&Tpk=7970%20powercolor

But the card isn't what is pictured. It has the same model number, but the PCB is black and doesn't have the AMD stamp.
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post #7 of 47

It's reference too as per EK.

 

http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/step1_complist

 

 

PowerColor Radeon HD 7970 DiRT 3 3GB GDDR5 (AX7970 3GBD5-M2DHG)

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It's reference too as per EK.

http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/step1_complist

PowerColor-Radeon-HD-7970-3GB-GDDR5-%28AX7970-3GBD5-M2DHG%29_24674.jpg

Yeah, if you look by the golden-fingers, you can see the bottom of the AMD logo on that card--it's indeed a reference. Mine is not like that, here's a picture of what mine has (sorry about the quality, I am at work and it's with a phone):

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post #9 of 47

Take a clear picture then shoot a PM to  EK_tiborrr

 

 

He will convince you.

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i7-3960X i7-980X GA-X79-UD7 / GA-X58A-UD9 7970 + 465 
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2x 6990 + 580 16GB 2133 MHz 24GB 2000 MHz 120GB x 2 RAID0 
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120GB x 4 RAID0 Raptor 300GB x 2 RAID0 CPU-370 CPU-370 
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VID-AR699 EK FB X58A-UD9 Win 7 Ultimate x64 1500W / 1250W+1200W 
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Originally Posted by Ken1649 View Post

Take a clear picture then shoot a PM to  EK_tiborrr


He will convince you.

Sweet, alright. biggrin.gif I changed the thread title too, just in case it does end up being a reference without an AMD stamp.
Edited by svthomas - 2/24/12 at 3:37pm
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AMD PII Rig
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AMD FX 8120 @ 4.8Ghz ASUS Sabertooth 990FX MSI Geforce GTX680 #1 MSI Geforce GTX680 #2 
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PowerColor 7970 ref. (Backup card...) 16 GB Corsair Vengeance PC3 12800 Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM Crucial 128GB M4 SSD 6Gb/s 
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None PrimoChill PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 1/1" ID 3/4... Swiftech MCP655 Koolance VID-NX680 
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Koolance VID-NX680 Danger Den Monsoon D5 Bay Reservoir Enzotech Compression Fittings Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15 x4 
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EK-Supreme HF XSPC RX480 Win 7 Ultimate 64bit Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #1 
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Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #2 Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #3 Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard Seasonic X750 Gold 
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Danger Den 26  Razer Deathadder My cat, or other small, furry creatures. Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium 
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Sennheiser HD555 Headphones 
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AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition ASUS Crosshair iv Formula SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6950 2GB (unlocked) - ref Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
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Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM None NZXT havik Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 
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Samsung 19" LCD Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard  CORSAIR TX650 Antec 902 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
AMD FX 8120 @ 4.8Ghz ASUS Sabertooth 990FX MSI Geforce GTX680 #1 MSI Geforce GTX680 #2 
GraphicsRAMHard DriveHard Drive
PowerColor 7970 ref. (Backup card...) 16 GB Corsair Vengeance PC3 12800 Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM Crucial 128GB M4 SSD 6Gb/s 
Optical DriveCoolingCoolingCooling
None PrimoChill PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 1/1" ID 3/4... Swiftech MCP655 Koolance VID-NX680 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Koolance VID-NX680 Danger Den Monsoon D5 Bay Reservoir Enzotech Compression Fittings Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15 x4 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
EK-Supreme HF XSPC RX480 Win 7 Ultimate 64bit Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #1 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #2 Acer 23" 1080p S232HL #3 Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard Seasonic X750 Gold 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Danger Den 26  Razer Deathadder My cat, or other small, furry creatures. Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium 
Audio
Sennheiser HD555 Headphones 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II 955 Black Edition ASUS Crosshair iv Formula SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6950 2GB (unlocked) - ref Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM None NZXT havik Win 7 Ultimate 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung 19" LCD Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Mechanical Keyboard  CORSAIR TX650 Antec 902 
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