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post #31 of 74
"Naw bro, it will so beat dat 2600k. Look at all dem cores!"

"Ok, trading blows with the 2500k is good too"

"Seriously, we're getting beat by an i3."

Oh AMD, you silly.
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Intel Core i5-2400 is $150 at MicroCenter, but an i5-2500k is only like $30 more, so if you are an Enthusiast, yeah, go with the i5-2500k, all day!
No need to get an i7, unless you are in need of massive processor power.
(Usually not the case, considering the i5-2500k overclocked is a beast!)
To me the i5 is still the best choice, overall, unless of course you need the massive 4 core / 8 thread i7, or the grossly overpriced 6 core i7s...
At $150, the i5-2400 is the best entry Gaming System CPU, to me... i5-2400 > ALL i3 CPUs & AMD CPUs (not considering graphics)
(That is, if you aren't an Enthusiast and plan on overclocking)
Throw in a good graphics card and you are good to go for many many years to come...
NOW is the time to build your Gaming System, Windows 8 IS NOT what you want, Windows 7 is!
Nough Said?

i7's are better for gaming as well.
You get what you pay for with an i5.

HT has also been proven lately to help in BF3 and Skyrim to name a few, and pushes multiple GPU setups better.

I ran my system with HT off 400mhz faster and my PC is noticeably faster, gaming noticeably smoother with HT on.
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The 4100 is a quad-core integer and dual-core FP, now can we stop all these stupid arguments kthx

I was basically saying people should look at the FX 4100 as Phenom II X2 like performance, but I gave u rep for explaining it better smile.gif
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Can't overclock the i3. Overclock the FX and you'll be getting equal or better performance (albeit with high power consumption).

yeah but why is an overclock needed when you can spend an extra 100 dollars on a gpu instead gaining way more of a performance increase

isn't a overclocked cpu give you like 2 extra fps max?
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Can't overclock the i3. Overclock the FX and you'll be getting equal or better performance (albeit with high power consumption).

Cant save 90$ with the FX either.
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You gotta remember though, this is a quad core clocked at 3.6GHz vs a dual core, with hyperthreading, at 3.1GHz, with the dual core CPU as the winner. tongue.gif


Its actually dual "module" chip where module is capable running two threads vs dual core chip where cores are capable of running two threads. AMD calling half a module a core is kinda marketing in my opinion. In essence its AMD's answer to Intels hyperthreading doing more or less similar thing. Transistors are expensive and one has to save some somehow.
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Its actually dual "module" chip where module is capable running two threads vs dual core chip where cores are capable of running two threads. AMD calling half a module a core is kinda marketing in my opinion. In essence its AMD's answer to Intels hyperthreading doing more or less similar thing. Transistors are expensive and one has to save some somehow.

True, but intel does not call a 2600k an 8-core CPU. I guess AMD is closer to the truth than intel would be if intel decided to pull the same shenanigans, but it's still not quite what it's advertised to be.
    
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Can't overclock the i3. Overclock the FX and you'll be getting equal or better performance (albeit with high power consumption).

Baseclock overlock it to 3.8-4Ghz. The FX would need to be at at 4.6-4.8Ghz to match it where CPU plays a factor.
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yeah but why is an overclock needed when you can spend an extra 100 dollars on a gpu instead gaining way more of a performance increase
isn't a overclocked cpu give you like 2 extra fps max?

Depends on the game. Playing games like GTA IV I notice a considerable increase in FPS with a decent OC. Shogun 2 gets some help in large battles as well.
    
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Can't overclock the i3. Overclock the FX and you'll be getting equal or better performance (albeit with high power consumption).

You'll also need to spend a lot more on cooling, a quality motherboard (with a quality VRM), and potentially PSU. You can run any i3 without issue on it's stock cooler and a 60 dollar board.

The i3 offers better price/performance, even if a sufficiently OCed Phenom II x4 does best it performance wise.
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Baseclock overlock it to 3.8-4Ghz. The FX would need to be at at 4.6-4.8Ghz to match it where CPU plays a factor.

Fastest i3 is 3.3GHz (33x multiplier, and no turbo). Most won't react well to more than a ~5MHz bump in BCLK and getting to the 115MHz you'd need for 3.8GHz is highly unlikely to happen with anything resembling stability.
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