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Yep, my i5-760 is still a great CPU. I just wished Intel would of stuck with the LGA1156 socket a bit longer, but nope. Moved onto LGA1155 (one freaking pin less!) for Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge. What even irks me more is that they're moving onto another new socket, LGA1150 for Haswell. I mean, c'mon, I can see the increase from LGA1156 from 775, but going down a couple of pins for a processor architecture is a joke.

They make good amount of cash selling motherboard chip-sets as well so ofc they will change the socket every time a new CPU releases. Lets just hope that new one has proper features, like SATA3 and USB3 and perhaps thunderbolt/lightbolt (basically displayport) port option as well.
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as I/O interfaces get faster (USB 3.0, PCI-E 3.0) new chipsets are needed. and when releasing new chipsets why not release new sockets so there would be less confusion.
plus even though you may think the difference between LGA1156 and LGA 1155 is 1 pin, the arrangement of which pin transmitting which data is completely different.
we're enthusiasts, not conservatives. welcome change! smile.gif
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The FX 4100 only makes sense if ur getting it for 110 with a free motherboard from Microcenter.

I would not pay 100 dollars retail for that chip by itself. I need to be compensated for my energy bill over getting the i3 by getting that free mobo.

I aint really trying to hate on AMD, but that is the honest truth. I love their APU's and use them alot.
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today when I was with a friend picking some new parts I picked a 2100 for him because of the cost performance ratio and the LGA1155 motherboards have a great upgrade path.

At the same time my FX-4100 overclocked is just as good as my x4 955 is in gaming. If you consider the 4100 as a dual core and it preforms similar to a quad, runs cooler and uses less power that's a step forward. I don't expect to see AMD on top anytime soon but with all the irons they have in the fire with the APU and incorporating the new resonant clock mesh I think they might be able to take back the low cost crown.
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today when I was with a friend picking some new parts I picked a 2100 for him because of the cost performance ratio and the LGA1155 motherboards have a great upgrade path.
At the same time my FX-4100 overclocked is just as good as my x4 955 is in gaming. If you consider the 4100 as a dual core and it preforms similar to a quad, runs cooler and uses less power that's a step forward. I don't expect to see AMD on top anytime soon but with all the irons they have in the fire with the APU and incorporating the new resonant clock mesh I think they might be able to take back the low cost crown.

Glad ur enjoying the FX-4100 I traded you, but I thought u said it ran sluggish until it hit about 4.5 on another thread a few days ago?

and u paid 33 bucks for it, so its more than worth it in that scenario. did u end up selling ur 955?

I'll use the FX 4100 all day as long as I am getting it for basically 50 bucks new in the box with cooler.
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This is OCN and you say that a chip that cant be overclocked is better. biggrin.gif
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for most people I would recommend the i3 2100, more performance in most cases, cooler...
also here the cost is close, but normally a 4100 system will cost you some 10 USD more (I'm talking about the cheap stuff, H61... I see very little sense in buying a cheap CPU and an expensive MB even more when the i3 2100 can't overclock, I would rather do the opposite), and this with a very poor MB (for 95w), which could end up killing the big advantage of the FX 4100, overclockability...

I personally think I could have some additional fun and performance by overclocking the 4100 compared to the stock i3 2100, but the 2100 in general just makes more sense....


but anyway, when bottlenecked by the GPU, there is very little difference between most CPUs, you could probably throw a 8150 and a i5 and things would probably look the same...
also these CPUs should be compared to the 960T,
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Glad ur enjoying the FX-4100 I traded you, but I thought u said it ran sluggish until it hit about 4.5 on another thread a few days ago?
and u paid 33 bucks for it, so its more than worth it in that scenario. did u end up selling ur 955?
I'll use the FX 4100 all day as long as I am getting it for basically 50 bucks new in the box with cooler.

It was until I reinstalled windows. I didn't think a strait chip swap would hurt performance much but I was wrong. Tuning is a must on the FX. It really seems to be about getting the northbridge to that sweet spot. Stock on the 4100 is 2000MHz but it shines at 2333MHz. On LinX the difference is over 6GFlops. When it hits 2400 everything becomes unstable no matter how much power I feed it.

http://3dmark.com/compare/3dm11/2624542/3dm11/2805259

I love this comparative^. If you consider the 955 was a flagship chip and the FX-4100 is entry level I say it's OK. (I'm a glass is half full kinda guy)

And no I didn't sell the 955. When I was given the x3 I was also given a ASUS M4A78 Plus (Dead right biggrin.gif ) so I put it in that with some G.SKILL PI and a old 8800GTS 320. I would definitely say that was the best $33 I ever spent. I was able to put together two x4 rigs because of it. thumb.gif
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Baseclock overlock it to 3.8-4Ghz. The FX would need to be at at 4.6-4.8Ghz to match it where CPU plays a factor.

Which the average FX-4100 can do. Overall it's a case of which would you rather have? A FX-4100 would be cheaper overall for AM3+ owners. (No need for motherboard, nor cooler depending on previous chip)

As for cooling, if you've got a previous setup you probably have a cooler with an AMx compatible mount. The FX-4100 is a great budget upgrade chip.
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OH absolutely agree, I frequent HWBot.org quite a bit. What I merely meant to convey is that the majority of "pre-built" machines have this type of hardware therefore the majority of people who do get this hardware aren't enthusiasts.

True enough.
    
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They make good amount of cash selling motherboard chip-sets as well so ofc they will change the socket every time a new CPU releases. Lets just hope that new one has proper features, like SATA3 and USB3 and perhaps thunderbolt/lightbolt (basically displayport) port option as well.

SATA III has been somewhat confirmed for all 6 ports and if I remember correctly, believe there will be 6 USB 3.0 ports as well, and that's just for the Intel chipsets. I'm sure manufacturers will include more. I'm hoping that on their higher-end boards that Thunderbolt will be included, but it's already an option on the mid-range boards.

I don't know, I just feel "locked in" to this LGA1156 board. My i5-760 would last me for much longer, but I'm still upgrading to Haswell. I just need to figure out what to do with the "old" stuff. Might do a home server or something.
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