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Originally Posted by swat565 View Post

PLEASE make a itx case...Lian Li / fractal are the only ones that make a case worth looking at yet alone using...

you mean lian li and silverstone don't you?biggrin.gif does fractal even make an ITX?
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Micro ATX boards are getting faster - and better. But most people aren't putting them into Micro ATX cases because they want the expansion possibilities a standard ATX case offers. There's a few enthusiasts (on forums like this one for example) who care very deeply about the dimensions, but most people like the ease of build and flexibility of standard ATX.

just to chime in on MY motivation of going with an ATX rather then mATX. it's not because I wanted to do SLi, or have any use for anything that mATX cant satisfy, but I went with a ATX instead because I wanted the overwhelming air cooling capability of the FT02. the more massive the cooling capability a case has, the more potential it has for being a quiet case.

NOW, if corsair were to take the design from the TJ08-E, put a 200mm fan in there instead of the 180mm fan, add a 5th expansion slot for GPU cooler, then it's be pretty much perfect. the overall width of the case would increase which means better cable management while retaining the capability of installing a phanteks cooler or maybe even some sound dampening foam? the height would not increase by too much (if any at all) and the length would have very slight increase to accommodate the 200mm fan.

overall, the increases in dimension would be well worth the benefit the increases offers. yes it's alittle bigger then the TJ08-E, but the overall capability FAR exceed what the TJ08-E is able to offer (200mm fan + proper SLi / xfire cooling or discreet sound card) from my consumer dollar point of view, that would negate any reason to go with ATX since smaller cases generally offer better cooling since the fans are much closer to the heat source.
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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post

My favorite right now is Silverstone's TJ08-E. Not perfect by a long shot, but better than most Micro ATX cases. Let me know which one you pick, I'm curious to find out.


Good guess, that is the one i'm ordering on Monday

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My favorite right now is Silverstone's TJ08-E. Not perfect by a long shot, but better than most Micro ATX cases. Let me know which one you pick, I'm curious to find out.

Definitely my favorite as well.
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you mean lian li and silverstone don't you?biggrin.gifdoes fractal even make an ITX?

The Array R2:

http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=42
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How about 800D successor.

This.
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See, the thing is, mATX is only about 2" shorter than ATX. That means you get rid of one optical drive. So the case dimensions are basically the same, but it's like 17" high instead of 19" high. You can get rid of some of the other stuff and shrink the case, but then the question is how much performance are you really willing to sacrifice for size? Would you give up the ability to hold long video cards? Full size ATX PSUs? What about the mATX Rampage Gene board with its SLI capability? Lots of guys interested in potentially running SLI on a mATX platform - so now you have to have sufficient cooling expansion for that - so it's more than just one 120mm fan - it's a couple of intakes, which takes up more room. By the time you're done, you basically have the 300R that's only 2" shorter and costs about the same. And what's the purpose of that?
Micro ATX boards are getting faster - and better. But most people aren't putting them into Micro ATX cases because they want the expansion possibilities a standard ATX case offers. There's a few enthusiasts (on forums like this one for example) who care very deeply about the dimensions, but most people like the ease of build and flexibility of standard ATX.
Now Mini ITX is a bit more interesting and a different tale for a different time. I'm still keeping my eye on that one. And I've got my head on Micro ATX, but I don't like limiting my options - and by doing a 4 or 5 slot case, you're basically limiting the potential use of the case to a tiny small segment of the market.

Fractal is selling the Arc and Define Minis like hotcakes...and retailers keep running out of stock. When I contacted their reps about availability, they stated that they completely underestimated demand for the form factor.

There are quite a few of us that find this size difference significant:

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...and given that most people just drop a single GPU and one or two hard drives into their builds, a full ATX build is overkill for many folks. Overkill and big. Personally, I find the size of full ATX cases to be out of hand with respect to commercial system offerings. mATX cases allow me to build without resulting in a case that screams, "look at me!" I want a mini beast that disappears in my office...not doubles as an end table...or file cabinet. smile.gif

As you have said yourself in other posts, when people rebuild, they usually buy a new case...so the need to accommodate a full ATX board later on seems like an unlikely benefit for most folks who buy an mATX MB.

I would have held out a couple of more months for a new Corsair mATX case, but when I saw what was offered at CES this year, I pulled the trigger on a Fractal. I would have waited very patiently for a mini 550D. That looks like a very nice case, but it's too large for me...and I imagine many others. Frankly, I like Corsair, but I feel ignored by them...as I am sure many in this 300+ page thread feel as well:

http://www.overclock.net/t/541767/club-for-those-with-beastly-matx-itx-rigs

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And how could I end without dropping in a pic of my mini:

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Edited by Scuba Steve in VA - 2/25/12 at 7:13pm
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[quote name="AbdullahG" url="/t/1220311/so-corsair-how-about-an-matx-enthusiast-case-now/30#post_16560881"] The Array R2: http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&prod=42[/quote] wow didnt know they made one:D thx for the info:)
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i love my case, would never dream of going back full size. might want to look into the vulcan. i liked my HAF 932 for my old rig but its now on server duty since desk space is limited at the new house and the MATX just fits better under the desk.
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If you guys made an matx case I would buy it for sure... And I am sure lots would just like what people have been saying. All I would have to say about it is it has to be smaller then a Core 1000. I love my rig and the case but it is still too big for me. It would be a challenge yes but Corsair is ready for it thumb.gif

I might as well drop a pic of my rig too tongue.gif so you guys know what other cases look like when filled smile.gif

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