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do you mean something like this XD
960T 115$
500GB HDD 50$
460
Total 711$
this will perform even better then a GTX 580 thumb.gif XD_1771 m waiting for you to say something wink.gif
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as someone who recently just built a system on a budget I would also have to say going with a I5 2500k is probably the way to go. Just the overall performance and dependablity is enough for me. I am running at 4.4ghz since the day I got it and not one hiccup in 4 months plus. I opted to go with a SSD drive which put me over budget a little bit, but it was well worth the investment. That being said, I do wish I got a different MB (not because it is of substandard quality, but because I am curious how system would run in SLI and I cannot do that as I just have one Port). Got to love the SSD though Win7 64 boots up in approx 9 seconds from pushing power button to being able to login.

My total upgrade cost was 809 dollars.

MB 109
CPU 179
GPU 210
SSD 209
RAM 68
Cool 26
HDholder 8

Total 809

Though what I have not seen mentioned here is utilizing Micro center if it is in your area? Gets the CPU a bit cheaper than New egg or others. In addition to having signifigant deals for MB/ CPU bundles.

Good luck with whatever you go with...
Edited by oldschool83 - 2/25/12 at 8:41am
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Pretty good config but that 5970 is out of stock! So that's not gonna work.... :/

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I don't see that happening, they don't produce them cards anymore. That was a OEM sale to sell off the last of them available just like the 4870's.
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I don't consider a 2500k appropriate for this budget. Take on a lower cost ~960T with a bettet GPU (960 + 6950 is doable in this budget) and in most if not all games, performance will be significantly better. A gaming build would be more balanced with more money put into the GPU. Don't need a huge GPU I.e. small monitor... put the savings into an SSD!

I disagree. If he gets a 2500K now, upgrading the graphics card down the road is very easy and straightforward. Take the old one out and put the new one in.

Upgrading the CPU down the road may require swapping motherboards, heatsinks, etc...

Also, there is no reason why he can't have a nice GPU and an SSD in a $700 Intel 2500K build (see below).

I suggest:

Core i5-2500K: $225
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Asrock P67 Pro3: $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Zotac GTX 560 Ti: $170 AR/AC ($40 off coupon SWF56056)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1844301&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-pg8gi1LRmlDggt8SIvuzmw

Corsair XMS3 2x4GB DDR3-1600: $30 AR
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6688614&sku=C13-1008&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-5ViR7ptCexe_bcMMXkCchw

OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD: $60AR (today only, Shell shocker)
http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-20-227-725-_-02272012_1

NZXT Source 210 Case: $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075

Corsair CX430V2 Power Supply: $35 AR
This PSU is a nice CWT unit with a 9/10 review @ Jonnyguru. It has a single 6+2 pin PCIE connector, so use the molex-->PCIE adapters that come with the 560Ti for the other connector on the card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

Total: $660 with a 2500K, GTX 560 Ti, and a fast SATA 3 SSD. Just over $700 if you do not include the rebates.

If he has a bit more $ to spare, he can upgrade to the AsRock Z68 Extreme3 for $30 more:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

The CX430V2 will have no problem running a single GTX 560Ti, even if the 2500K has a light overclock. But, if your friend wants a nice modular unit with a bit more power, I suggest the Rosewill HIVE 550W for $70:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182131
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I disagree. If he gets a 2500K now, upgrading the graphics card down the road is very easy and straightforward. Take the old one out and put the new one in.
Upgrading the CPU down the road may require swapping motherboards, heatsinks, etc...
Also, there is no reason why he can't have a nice GPU and an SSD in a $700 Intel 2500K build (see below).
I suggest:
Core i5-2500K: $225
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
Asrock P67 Pro3: $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230
Zotac GTX 560 Ti: $170 AR/AC ($40 off coupon SWF56056)
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1844301&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-pg8gi1LRmlDggt8SIvuzmw
Corsair XMS3 2x4GB DDR3-1600: $30 AR
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6688614&sku=C13-1008&SRCCODE=LINKSHARE&cm_mmc_o=-ddCjC1bELltzywCjC-d2CjCdwwp&AffiliateID=lw9MynSeamY-5ViR7ptCexe_bcMMXkCchw
OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD: $75AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227725
NZXT Source 210 Case: $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146075
Corsair CX430V2 Power Supply: $35 AR
This PSU is a nice CWT unit with a 9/10 review @ Jonnyguru. It has a single 6+2 pin PCIE connector, so use the molex-->PCIE adapters that come with the 560Ti for the other connector on the card.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026
Total: $675 with a 2500K, GTX 560 Ti, and a fast SATA 3 SSD
If he has a bit more $ to spare, he can upgrade to the AsRock Z68 Extreme3 for $30 more:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
The CX430V2 will have no problem running a single GTX 560Ti, even if the 2500K has a light overclock. But, if your friend wants a nice modular unit with a bit more power, I suggest the Rosewill HIVE 550W for $70:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182131

Replace the SSD with a Crucial M4 then its fine. No reason to cheap out on SSD, when its the same price. And he's looking for products without rebate, a $700 budget doesn't cover $800 in parts.
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^ And at the same time he has no room to get extra graphics horsepower via a second card due to the limited nature of the CX 430 V2.  There is no hard drive in this PC.  To top it off everything goes over budget discounting the rebates which I normally do not consider in my own build suggestions, even without the hard drive.

 

It is simply not possible to pursue the 2500k and have room for a decent balanced build everywhere else at this budget.  Saving the $125 to pursue an AM3+ platform PC will make the difference not only in that the build will actually fit the budget but if the OP considers rebate discounts then there is additional headroom that can be used to obtain better parts such as an even better GPU or a larger SSD that can store more games and programs. A CPU upgrade on the AM3+ socket to the next generation will likely not require a motherboard switch so long as a 900 series chipset board is used.  As for prioritizing "GPU later" or "CPU later", you might wish to consider which one of the two is going to make more of a difference in what this person is going to do with this PC.

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^ And at the same time he has no room to get extra graphics horsepower via a second card due to the limited nature of the CX 430 V2.  There is no hard drive in this PC.  To top it off everything goes over budget discounting the rebates which I normally do not consider in my own build suggestions, even without the hard drive.

It is simply not possible to pursue the 2500k and have room for a decent balanced build everywhere else at this budget.  Saving the $125 to pursue an AM3+ platform PC will make the difference not only in that the build will actually fit the budget but if the OP considers rebate discounts then there is additional headroom that can be used to obtain better parts such as an even better GPU or a larger SSD that can store more games and programs. A CPU upgrade on the AM3+ socket to the next generation will likely not require a motherboard switch so long as a 900 series chipset board is used.  As for prioritizing "GPU later" or "CPU later", you might wish to consider which one of the two is going to make more of a difference in what this person is going to do with this PC.

You forgot to mention that the Phenom II you suggested earlier will be a bottleneck for any decent SLI/Crossfire setup. I'd much rather have a modern CPU in the form of a 2500K than to save a few bucks and have an outdated Phenom II that will bottleneck even single card setups for next-gen CPUs. A Phenom II/FX will already bottleneck a single HD 7970, as evidenced by a comparison test Techpowerup did a month ago.

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As far as "there is no hard drive," there is a 60GB SSD in there. That is more than enough to get Windows and apps on the computer. Adding a 500GB hard drive down the road is not an expensive proposition, and the OP's friend will be able to enjoy all the benefits of an SSD now.

For the PSU, the CX430V2 is a $25-35 unit. When OP decides that the 560Ti is no longer enough (won't be for a while, IMO), then it's really not that difficult to swap it out with a good 600-650W unit for SLI. Or, he can sell the 560Ti and get the next gen Kepler card that fits into the <200W power envelope and not swap PSUs at all. Either way, much easier than having to swap out his CPU/Mobo once he realizes that a Phenom II setup is outdated and can't handle the latest GPUs in a couple of years.
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Switching a PSU for another isn't easy when you consider the challenge that comes with cable re-management.  I haven't had a good experience myself during PSU switches; but I have found motherboard and/or CPU switches to be much faster and easier.

 

Asserting that anyone can run off a single 60GB SSD is ridiculous since with such a setup you would run out of space pretty darn fast on a Windows 7 install.  If I threw my Appdata folder onto my SSD alongside other important folders that are currently on my hard drive instead, usage would be very close to tripping the 55GB recognizable space cap that is present on a 60GB SSD.  I don't even have any games installed, and I keep folders like temporary files and such regularly cleaned up.  Remember the need for a pagefile, too!

 

What good use is the benefit of an SSD and a fairly good CPU (that is probably not nearly going to make as big as a difference as the GPU due to the patterns of coding of new apps and most games) now if he can't be using his computer for what it's more likely supposed to be doing right away - trying out different games and completing necessary schoolwork, as well as actually being able to store that work?  You have the priorities of what to be getting/doing now and later all wrong and mixed up - and I have good reasons to believe that these decisions are not smart ones for this build.

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