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They wouldnt have announced this!but the heated platter(good old hard drive)and the fact ibm is well positioned to. complete dev and mass commercialised it..if wisper are true .cache.ram.vram would become obsolete and those hhd could be avail by 2015. For serber
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They wouldnt have announced this!but the heated platter(good old hard drive)and the fact ibm is well positioned to. complete dev and mass commercialised it..if wisper are true .cache.ram.vram would become obsolete and those hhd could be avail by 2015. For serber

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Nvm ill stop posting i am tired. of this.everything i say is all over th web.what what what.come on google. please
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Because volume manufacturing is the same as being available in shops isn't it rolleyes.gif

THIS!
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I'm glad DDR4 is taking a while to get here. It seemed once DDR2 was out, just a short couple of years, DDR3 was out with the first LGA1366 and Phenom II processors. Kind of didn't want that to happen as with DDR3 coming out in such a short amount of time after DDR2, prices to upgrade RAM in those machines are ridiculous. It's about $50 or more for 2x2GB sticks of DDR2 @ 800Mhz.

I figured Haswell was not going to be DDR4. That's fine by me as that's 1 less part I have to upgrade when I move onto Haswell. I'll throw my 8GB I have now in there and might add another 8GB if I wanted since it's on the cheap side right now.

I think we might see Broadwell with DDR4, but there might be a few late-coming Haswell motherboards that could have it.
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1866 MHz is the fastest Factory RAM based upon motherboard designs right now...
Getting a motherboard to do 2400 MHz may prove impossible yes?
I doubt we will get 2400 MHz Dual Channel RAM any time soon...
Of course I'm just sick of these Corporations holding all the cards, playing them in turn, one at a time on us...
Just give us the final best product and be done with it!
Dunno what to say to this. There are several CAS 9 2400MHz kits for sale right now, and a lot of Z68 and X79 motherboards support 2400MHz from the factory. I think the current WR for DDR3 frequency is 3600MHz.

And it's not "greedy corporations" holding back performance... manufacturers learn how to improve and tweak their products with time and R&D. The technology and market demand must exist before somebody releases newer tech.
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Not as interesting has the jump from DDR2 to DDR3, we are at a point where the average user doesn't need more then 8gb / 1600 mhz out of his ram, and thats why ram price hit an all time low this year, its not like back then when 128mb of ram was the shizzz.. rolleyes.gif
Yeah, now. You'll notice that better tech comes out before "a point where the average user doesn't need more than ___". PCIe 3.0, USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s all came out when their predecessors were plenty adequate. DDR4 may seem "uninteresting" now, but once it gains mainstream acceptance, you'll look back on today and wonder how you ever thought 8GB of 1600MHz ram was the shizzz.
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That picture looks so familiar. I feel like I saw an article with that exact same picture about DDR4 last year.
It's very similar but not exactly the same: http://www.behardware.com/news/11425/hynix-produces-its-first-ddr4-modules.html
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What are you getting at? He's absolutely correct... DDR4 at the same clock speed as DDR3 is going to be slower. Timings on DDR4 are much looser.
Not necessarily. DDR4 will not double the internal prefetch over DDR3, so timings and internal bandwidth will remain relativity the same at any given frequency. However, other optimizations in both the ram and the memory controller, like discarding dual/quad channel in favor of point-to-point, in addition to increased frequency, are what will make DDR4 faster than DDR3.
 
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Not necessarily. DDR4 will not double the internal prefetch over DDR3, so timings and internal bandwidth will remain relativity the same at any given frequency. However, other optimizations in both the ram and the memory controller, like discarding dual/quad channel in favor of point-to-point, in addition to increased frequency, are what will make DDR4 faster than DDR3.

I'm just talking about early market DDR4. DDR4 2133 is going to be slower than DDR3 2133 when it launches.
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Since DDR3 is not a bottleneck there is no rush to go to DDR4. DDR4 will be used more for servers as there won't be any tangible performance advantage for years on the desktop.
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Since DDR3 is not a bottleneck there is no rush to go to DDR4. DDR4 will be used more for servers as there won't be any tangible performance advantage for years on the desktop.

The GPU portion of APUs can benefit quite significantly from more memory bandwidth.
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Since DDR3 is not a bottleneck there is no rush to go to DDR4. DDR4 will be used more for servers as there won't be any tangible performance advantage for years on the desktop.

DDR4 has 40% lower power consumption than DDR3. This is a very big deal for notebooks, and the demand from notebook producers should make the consumer side transition even faster than DDR2->DDR3 imo.
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