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Originally Posted by AMD4ME View Post

Since DDR3 is not a bottleneck there is no rush to go to DDR4. DDR4 will be used more for servers as there won't be any tangible performance advantage for years on the desktop.

Most servers use ECC DDR3-1333, so I doubt it. DDR4 probably will be introduced on portable devices.
    
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JUST switched to DDR3.... ***
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I'm excited, but then again I'm always excited about new tech. wheee.gif
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I'm just talking about early market DDR4. DDR4 2133 is going to be slower than DDR3 2133 when it launches.

I should probably tell myself to just not get any new parts (after Ivy) until DDR4 is faster than DDR3. I think I'll try and set my limit for upgrading right here.... ;~;
 
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Yeah, now. You'll notice that better tech comes out before "a point where the average user doesn't need more than ___". PCIe 3.0, USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s all came out when their predecessors were plenty adequate. DDR4 may seem "uninteresting" now, but once it gains mainstream acceptance, you'll look back on today and wonder how you ever thought 8GB of 1600MHz ram was the shizzz.

Still maintain my opinion, I have a almost 4 year old rig, with 4gb ddr2, still haven't found any need to put more into it, and ram is dam cheap, theres no game or application i can't use or have trouble using due to ram, I will be upgrading this year to IB so will be changing to ddr3, so even if they release ddr4 in 2014; it will still be 1. dam expensive, 2.pointless, since there won't be any real use among your average user for it, only ppl that need it for professional use(video editing etc...) would take advantage of it, I'm betting early 2016 at least before it gets a decent market share, that if until then, other technologies like XDR2 or even the Memory Cube don't crush it completely.
Also would like to note that usb3 is in the market for nearly 2 years now, and usb2 is still more used then usb3, PCIe 3.0 will have a similar path ahead, won't take that long since PCIe 3.0 its actually a useful upgrade.
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in the article. last sentence

ahh right


because mass production start always means product hitting the shelves


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They wouldnt have announced this!but the heated platter(good old hard drive)and the fact ibm is well positioned to. complete dev and mass commercialised it..if wisper are true .cache.ram.vram would become obsolete and those hhd could be avail by 2015. For serber

what are you talking about?
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I wouldn't be surprised if my next desktop rig has this, as long as my sig rig holds out.
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Why will Haswell not have DDR4? That's when I plan to upgrade... frown.gif
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Does any CPU currently in existence actually support DDR4 yet? How are they testing it? thinking.gif

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I wouldn't be surprised if my next desktop rig has this, as long as my sig rig holds out.

So you're going to bypass Ivy Bridge, Haswell, Broadwell, and possibly even Skylake, plus any of the -E variants that may come out? Coming from a fellow Wolfdale owner, you are insane if you think you will wait that long and not be in agony the entire time. Seriously, you're looking at the tail end of the 14nm process before DDR4 even becomes a possibility.
    
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Most servers use ECC DDR3-1333, so I doubt it. DDR4 probably will be introduced on portable devices.

This will be a good path for Servers to follow since less power with 100's of gigabyte of ram sitting in a server room especially if you say they have about 1k or so ram sticks running at 1.5v which i think the ram uses what 3 watts i think it is. So if it uses 40% less power it should be 3000-((3-(3x0.40))x1000)=1800 watts so thats a healthy 1200watt advantage vs DDR3 at 1k units in power usage. Id say thats awesome.

Plus Oedipis ECC will be added to the DDR4 just like it was to every other type of ram servers used generations before. And at 2133mhz with ECC that hopefully will a nice increase in bandwidth for those servers that need it the most.

Now only if cpu and gpus could follow rams efficiency when it comes to newer tech lol
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