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Yeah, I knew Mac Pro wasn't for games. It is very very quiet and nicely built and that really fits the need I have, as a singer/amateur musician using Reason etc. That and osx in general are what I bought it for. But when running win 7 in bootcamp (bare metal) I thought it would score a litlle higher than it did on benchmarks. I'll calm down. It runs Skyrim just fine.
Thanks for all the input, gents!

That's why you got such a low score.
    
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Whilst sarcastic I was being serious biggrin.gif
Do you love your imock more than your 2500k rig? Does it do anything better? Which cost more?
yes, I don't like Apple, products or patenttrollcompany but I am always curious as to why people pay hard earned benjamins buying them.

Yes, it's better in every single way OTHER than gaming than my other rig. The gaming rig was a little cheaper because I reused parts from an old build, but I also didn't need a monitor, which would have evened it out.

I can't really describe why I like it more, but to me it's just better. I like OSX more, I like the interface, I like the simple commands like "cmd q" that quits the application, I like pages, keynote, and numbers much more than the windows counterparts. Ease of use, extremely silent, and everything is build all in one unit. I like the wireless slim-lined keyboard, I like the large display, etc. Not to mention the customer service and support they offer.

I've had numerous Dell's, and all of them but one have failed. Heck, I had a Dell that fried two motherboards within a month of each other. I've also built a few custom rigs. I like Windows for gaming, but for ME, Apple and OSX is better in every single way, other than gaming. You buy a Mac for the support, experience, and ease of use. If you don't want to pay for one, that's fine, I agree, they are overpriced.
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You buy a Mac for the support, experience, and ease of use

Actually most people who buy a Mac buy it to be different and stand out from the crowd, or because they see Macs as being fashion accessories. laugher.gif I got a Mac for the same reason as you though tongue.gif
    
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That's why you got such a low score.
You are incorrect, Bootcamp is just a tool to download drivers and easily partition the drive to dual boot OS X and Windows. Using Bootcamp to install Windows gives you a fully working install just like any other PC and there is no performance penaltiy since it's not virtual machine software. His score is around what a stock HD5770 should get with his CPU:

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Mind you this is with a i7-3960X so a his 3DMark11 score with a Nehalem 2.8GHz HT quad and HD5770 is pretty much right where it should be.
Edited by Ben the OCer - 2/25/12 at 2:23pm
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You aren't spending $2400 for parts. You're buying their service and customer support which is still top notch. If anything were to happen to that hing you could walk it into an Apple store and they'll replace it on the spot (if they have an equal one in stock). Or send it in and get it fixed.


I can get that without paying an overpriced premium, and on individual parts... that I own... and have full control over...

I'm really trying not to come off as a pompus prick here, but it's just hard not to call you naive. Be honest with your self, you're paying a premium because they know you, and a LOT of others, will pay it.
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I can get that without paying an overpriced premium, and on individual parts... that I own... and have full control over...
I'm really trying not to come off as a pompus prick here, but it's just hard not to call you naive. Be honest with your self, you're paying a premium because they know you, and a LOT of others, will pay it.

I've had my MacBook replaced 4 times from dropping it, and all I've had to do is walk to the mall and take it to the Apple store, boom all fixed/new all within less than 30 minutes. Please, tell me any other company you can do this with. Even our Toughbooks at work don't get that kind of service, and our work has dedicated Panasonic tech's for it, and they're around $3,000-$3,500 for the same performance. I've had Dell replace my Latitude once and it took nearly 4 weeks as I had to mail it to them, after that they wouldn't do anything else about it. And HP, laugh out loud, nothing else to say about HP.

The situation is much different in the Desktop world where you have full control over individual parts. And companies have much better service/policies. But when it comes to laptops, good service is truly hard to come by.

You can call it being naive all you want, but I get what I want, when I want it. Not a month or more down the line like so many of my other laptops. And getting a whole new laptop occasionally never hurts either, instead of them sending you some other used and nasty as hell, but it's ok because it's in better working condition than the one you sent in. I dunno how many times I've gotten a laptop back that looks like someone either threw it in a mud pile or puked on it, but I've gotten some pretty nasty ones. Only to have to send them back again and wait ANOTHER month or more.
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I've had my MacBook replaced 4 times from dropping it, and all I've had to do is walk to the mall and take it to the Apple store, boom all fixed/new all within less than 30 minutes. Please, tell me any other company you can do this with. Even our Toughbooks at work don't get that kind of service, and our work has dedicated Panasonic tech's for it, and they're around $3,000-$3,500 for the same performance. I've had Dell replace my Latitude once and it took nearly 4 weeks as I had to mail it to them, after that they wouldn't do anything else about it. And HP, laugh out loud, nothing else to say about HP.
The situation is much different in the Desktop world where you have full control over individual parts. And companies have much better service/policies. But when it comes to laptops, good service is truly hard to come by.

Hell, you can go ahead and buy yourself an SSD and 2 or 3 lenovo refurbs for a similar price.

Yes, Apple has undeniably good service. They've replaced my iPhone 4 twice (dust kept getting in the mic), and I haven't paid a dime for it. But dropping $1300+ on a computer just for good service/warranty is a whole lot to swallow.
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Hell, you can go ahead and buy yourself an SSD and 2 or 3 lenovo refurbs for a similar price.
Yes, Apple has undeniably good service. They've replaced my iPhone 4 twice (dust kept getting in the mic), and I haven't paid a dime for it. But dropping $1300+ on a computer just for good service/warranty is a whole lot to swallow.

Really comparing refurbs? lol. I can hop on craigslist and grab me a 17" MacBook Pro for $5-700 with no problem brand new in the box. Which is actually how I got my first MacBook Pro 15".

But yeah, price may be steep but you'd easily spend $500 on a similar laptop made of cheap and flimsy plastic. So to me, getting something that not only feels solid, but is, along with great service, the extra bit of the price tag is well worth it.

But to each their own. Some people may not see a point in it, but I do, and have had nothing but excellant service since, so I'm happy.
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And the trackpad biggrin.gif The multitouch glass trackpad is the best one I have ever used.
    
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Your real mistake was not spec'ing the 5870. It's what, double the render power of the 5770?

As for macs not being "for gaming" they're not sold as gaming consoles, no, but steam works just fine on mine...
 
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