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I could really use some OC advice on the E6300 + Gigabyte DS4 Mobo

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I have downloaded and flashed the latest bios (f5?) and tried setting the memory timings to the recormended by manufacturer 4-4-4-4-12 (top one here http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...ll_Memory.html)

But since i set the mem timings from auto the stability has gone to ****.

I could really use help on setting memory, voltage, and FSB speed to get some bang for my buck out of this E6300

My overclocking attempts got me nowhere but locking up the system and having to short out the cmos to reset the bios

Cheers guys.
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Gan you fill out your system specs? It will make it easier to help you

Go to User CP, and then select 'Edit System Specs' from the menu on the left.

What settings do you use for your RAM (and which brand / model is it?) If you have it set at DDR2 800 and those timings, I do indeed expect your overclock attempt to go haywire. For now, set your RAM at DDR2 533 speeds (1:1 with the CPU) and try it like that.
    
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There u go mate... all speced out.
Not got any OCing speeds or benchmarks yet...only built it yesterday
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Ok... for overclocking, I'd try the following first:

RAM at DDR2 533 speeds, timings auto for now.
Then try slowly increase your FSB. 10MHz steps should be fine.

See if that gets you anywhere.

I am betting you left RAM at DDR2 800 speeds in BIOS.... you have to know that RAM speed increases with the FSB... thus, if you set it at DDR2 800, it'll quickly exceed the specs of the RAM.
    
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Originally Posted by Chozart
Ok... for overclocking, I'd try the following first:

RAM at DDR2 533 speeds, timings auto for now.
Then try slowly increase your FSB. 10MHz steps should be fine.

See if that gets you anywhere.

I am betting you left RAM at DDR2 800 speeds in BIOS.... you have to know that RAM speed increases with the FSB... thus, if you set it at DDR2 800, it'll quickly exceed the specs of the RAM.
The bios on the mobo ups the reprisented memory speed as you up the FSB is this a reprisentation of the CPU speed upping the mem speed or is this over and above an already set setting somewhere else(???)

Thanks for the advice... at what point do voltages start to need upping?
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Ok.. The RAM speed in the BIOS is the RAM speed with the FSB (and CPU) at stock (in this case, stock FSB = 266MHz).

I assumed you had DDR2 800 RAM in my previous post. sorry.

Thus, when you set it at stock, DDR2 667 (external frequency = 333MHz), your RAM will run at those speeds with all else at stock speeds. The moment you increase your FSB, the RAM speed will go up also. For example, when you increase to 333MHz, your RAM will run at 333/266 x 667 = 835MHz. Your RAM is likely not up to that task, esp. at fixed timings of CAS4!. When you put your RAM lower, for example at DDR2 533 speeds, you have more headroom. With the FSB at 333MHz, your RAM will then run at DDR2 667 speeds, which is the stock speed of your RAM. You probably have a little headroom to get higher, but expect not much more than like 370 MHz on the FSB before you need to knock your RAM even further down (to DDR2 400 speeds)

I'd for now see how far you can get before upping voltages... in many cases you can achieve quite a bit before upping. When you notice that yuor OC is not stable, then start upping.
    
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