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Air Cooling for Socket 2011 from Tom´s Hardware

If you want to be like that. The OP isnt using the 2011 socket.
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but NH D14 is cheaper
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You can't use a 240mm rad? Simple,

Get a Corsair H80/70 or Antec 920 or if you are feeling frisky and want to try actual water cooling add a couple bucks to your budget and pick up a RX120 kit from XSPC

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_202_972&products_id=32275

The picture is misleading at the top, it is a 120mm rad. It will out perform any of the other solutions due to being a custom loop.

Unless you WANT air. The above solutions will be quieter and take the strain from placing a bulky heavy heatsink hanging on the side of your motherboard, and of course have great performance.
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post #34 of 53
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You can't use a 240mm rad? Simple,
Get a Corsair H80/70 or Antec 920 or if you are feeling frisky and want to try actual water cooling add a couple bucks to your budget and pick up a RX120 kit from XSPC
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_202_972&products_id=32275
The picture is misleading at the top, it is a 120mm rad. It will out perform any of the other solutions due to being a custom loop.
Unless you WANT air. The above solutions will be quieter and take the strain from placing a bulky heavy heatsink hanging on the side of your motherboard, and of course have great performance.

Corsair H80/70 or the Antec 920 will not be quieter actually compared to the top tier heatsinks with stock fans.
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post #35 of 53
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Corsair H80/70 or the Antec 920 will not be quieter actually compared to the top tier heatsinks with stock fans.

...and not perform as well thermally as many high quality HSFs - per Anandtech, Frosty Tech and other reputable review sites. The only CLC that equals high end HSFs is the H100 and it's noisy as Hell.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5054/corsair-hydro-series-h60-h80-and-h100-reviewed/5
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...and not perform as well thermally as many high quality HSFs - per Anandtech, Frosty Tech and other reputable review sites. The only CLC that equals high end HSFs is the H100 and it's noisy as Hell.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5054/corsair-hydro-series-h60-h80-and-h100-reviewed/5

I only thing I said would be better thermally was the custom loop. & they can be made just as quiet or quiet by using whatever fan. I suppose I just have a thing for not liking bulky metal objects hanging off my motherboard.
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post #37 of 53
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I only thing I said would be better thermally was the custom loop. & they can be made just as quiet or quiet by using whatever fan. I suppose I just have a thing for not liking bulky metal objects hanging off my motherboard.

The point is that current closed-loop-coolers are a poor choice for most people because:

1. They are thermally inefficient compared to high end HSFs

2. They are a poor value cost wise compared to high end HSFs

3. They are an even poor-er value if you need to change/add fans to get proper cooling and low noise - compared to a quality high end HSFs

4. They are noisy is you don't spend more money to buy/add/change fans

5. When they leak water they can destroy hundreds of dollars in PC hardware

All of the above has been confirmed by countless hardware review sites so it's not really debatable but that won't stop fanbois from arguing their subjective opinions.

The Corsair H100 is the only current CLC that offers equal thermal performance to the high end HSFs and the H100 is still a poor value and noisy unless you change/add fans.

If in spite of the above facts, you are Hell Bent on owning a Corsair/Antec or other brand of CLC - By all means knock yourself out. The HSF Police will NOT come to your house and arrest you for making a poor CPU cooling decision. wink.gif

BTW, I have seen zero reports of mobo issues with large, high end HSFs so I don't see that as an issue though case or RAM clearance can be an issue.
Edited by AMD4ME - 2/25/12 at 6:59pm
post #38 of 53
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The point is that current closed-loop-coolers are a poor choice for most people because:
1. They are thermally inefficient compared to high end HSFs
2. They are a poor value cost wise compared to high end HSFs
3. They are an even poor-er value if you need to change/add fans to get proper cooling and low noise - compared to a quality high end HSFs
4. They are noisy is you don't spend more money to buy/add/change fans
5. When they leak water they can destroy hundreds of dollars in PC hardware
All of the above has been confirmed by countless hardware review sites so it's not really debatable but that won't stop fanbois from arguing their subjective opinions.
The Corsair H100 is the only current CLC that offers equal thermal performance to the high end HSFs and the H100 is still a poor value and noisy unless you change/add fans.
If in spite of the above facts, you are Hell Bent on owning a Corsair/Antec or other brand of CLC - By all means knock yourself out. The HSF Police will NOT come to your house and arrest you for making a poor CPU cooling decision. wink.gif
BTW, I have seen zero reports of mobo issues with large, high end HSFs so I don't see that as an issue though case or RAM clearance can be an issue.

agree, but just a note- it's my understanding that
corsair will replace any damaged components if it does leak. it is very rare so they can afford to do so. product failures are usually due to the pump or other issue, not leaks. saying that these coolers will leak on your stuff is the equivalent of saying a 2kg heatsink will break your motherboard
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post #39 of 53
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The point is that current closed-loop-coolers are a poor choice for most people because:
1. They are thermally inefficient compared to high end HSFs
2. They are a poor value cost wise compared to high end HSFs
3. They are an even poor-er value if you need to change/add fans to get proper cooling and low noise - compared to a quality high end HSFs
4. They are noisy is you don't spend more money to buy/add/change fans
5. When they leak water they can destroy hundreds of dollars in PC hardware
All of the above has been confirmed by countless hardware review sites so it's not really debatable but that won't stop fanbois from arguing their subjective opinions.
The Corsair H100 is the only current CLC that offers equal thermal performance to the high end HSFs and the H100 is still a poor value and noisy unless you change/add fans.
If in spite of the above facts, you are Hell Bent on owning a Corsair/Antec or other brand of CLC - By all means knock yourself out. The HSF Police will NOT come to your house and arrest you for making a poor CPU cooling decision. wink.gif
BTW, I have seen zero reports of mobo issues with large, high end HSFs so I don't see that as an issue though case or RAM clearance can be an issue.

Points 1, 2, 4, and 5, are pretty much meaningless.

Thermally inefficient? They are very thermal efficient, even when compared to the top end dogs. They may not win by a large margin, even losing sometimes, but they are definitely thermally efficient.

They are not a poor value. They are priced very similarly, and even if they cost $10 more that $10 cost to me is worth it so you can actually SEE my computer inside my case. I'd rather not have someone look into my case and be like "nice heatsink bro", because that is all they can see.

99% of the time they are going to be very silent. I am aware there are cases where people have had noisey pump motors, but for the most part they are very silent especially when paired with silent fans

Same thing goes for leaking, as with all hardware there is always bound to be defects. Leaking is another very slim chance to ever happen with those units.

Point 3 can actually be taken into consideration since silent fans can get quite expensive especially when added on top of the already premium you are paying for a closed loop system, however IMO I still think they are pretty damn silent without buying third party fans.

Anyways, air and closed loop aside.. I believe the best option would be a custom loop IF he is willing to throw down a little more money. It'd offer the most superior performance while maintaining near silent operation(especially if he didn't even bother using a fan, which is totally doable) and then it'd also give him a lessen in building a custom loop of his own. thumb.gif
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Simple answer. Corsair Hydro H80 but please buy two PWM Noctua fans, those fans along with the H80 should keep things nice and frosty.
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