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Don't waste money because of developers, it's not your fault.
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When the 7900 series was released, they fixed a lot of the microstuttering issues, which is when one video card doesn't correlate with the other one; i.e, irregular delays between frames of the two cards.

An SSD is a big improvement for a system. Everything will be very responsive. Windows will load in around 10 seconds, load times in games will be cut in half, and the application will launch super quickly. It is THAT GOOD.
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Originally Posted by Cooljohnson View Post

Don't waste money because of developers, it's not your fault.

what do you mean?
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first off i want to say THANK YOU so much for all the suggestions, helps a guy who knows nothing but the sheer basics out a lot (google gives a lot of very conflicting results). based on what i have seen here pre-built is not good, and i should definitely build my own, or that's the vibe i got from reading other threads as well as this one. i do have some more questions or comments based on what you guys told me. Then i'll put together a list and you guys can let me know how it looks if you don't mind!
What is WC?
based on the recommendations i take it ATI Radeons are better than Nvidia's geforce line.
I see the majority of people recommending the 2500k, isn't a 2700k better just due to higher clock speed? ( i don't understand all that goes into CPUs, but thought i understood for gaming clock speed is always better than number of cores. and the higher the speed the better. I am planning on doing some After-Effects work on this machine as well as the rest of the PS suite, on top of gaming.
Seeing everyone is recommending SSD's, what is the advantage of them, i see they are a tenth of the size for the same price?
Seems only a couple people bring up using 2 video cards, is there little gains from doing things like crossfire/sli? if i feel can afford it should i just do that, or is it a waste of my money.

WC is water cooling/liquid cooling and it is very tedious and time consuming process

Radeons vs Geforce, this is not true, we are suggesting the 7950/7970s right now because Nvidia's new line is not out yet and as far as I understand the 7950/7970s are better than Nvidia's top tier 580s

i5 2500K/i7 2600K (depending on you're needs) is the best price performance, the 2700K is just a thinly disguised minor standard overclock (built into the chip) for a premium you should never pay, buy either a 2500K or 2600K and overclock that

SSDs are probably 4 times or more faster (trust me they are worth it) and you would put you're OS and core programs on that and buy a large hard drive to install other apps and games

Single card is probably all you need now hense why I suggested one but a 750 watt PSU so when games become harder to play on the highest settings you can buy another 7950 or 7970 for cheap at that point and Crossfire then rather than shelling out now when it can already hit highest settings with over playable FPS, imho at this time and price it is not worth it to buy two cards especially if you want to keep you're costs down now and over time
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Originally Posted by Grayswandir View Post

first off i want to say THANK YOU so much for all the suggestions, helps a guy who knows nothing but the sheer basics out a lot (google gives a lot of very conflicting results). based on what i have seen here pre-built is not good, and i should definitely build my own, or that's the vibe i got from reading other threads as well as this one. i do have some more questions or comments based on what you guys told me. Then i'll put together a list and you guys can let me know how it looks if you don't mind!
What is WC?
based on the recommendations i take it ATI Radeons are better than Nvidia's geforce line.
I see the majority of people recommending the 2500k, isn't a 2700k better just due to higher clock speed? ( i don't understand all that goes into CPUs, but thought i understood for gaming clock speed is always better than number of cores. and the higher the speed the better. I am planning on doing some After-Effects work on this machine as well as the rest of the PS suite, on top of gaming.
Seeing everyone is recommending SSD's, what is the advantage of them, i see they are a tenth of the size for the same price?
Seems only a couple people bring up using 2 video cards, is there little gains from doing things like crossfire/sli? if i feel can afford it should i just do that, or is it a waste of my money.

7000 Series Radeons are just the best you can get now, until Nvidia Kepler's release in a coiple months biggrin.gif That's why everyone is suggesting them (on top of the fixed problems on the 6000 Series)

The i5 2500K is a Quad core beast, and even more while overclocked past 4Ghz it will do anything you want really fast, The i7-2600K/2700K is still a Quad core BUT with Hyperthreading which makes 4 more virtual Cores, Windows sees it as a 8-Core processor and it will do rendering,encoding,folding faster than a 2500K at the same clocks.


Hope i helped biggrin.gif
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Not sure if serious.

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what do you mean?

Assuming that was about PC games, developers in recent years have just been doing terrible console ports. Or so I have heard anyway, the only console port I have played in the last few years excluding GTA San Andreas (since 2005) is GTA IV, in theory I can max is with my sig rig but I can just about get a playable frame rate at these settings.

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Even on the lowest settings when I first start it I get 1-5 frames per second for the first 5 minutes.
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I wasn't either. FX has a lot of problems right now.
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If youre going to play on a single monitor, then a single card is fine. You won't have any problems on any game, and you can add a second card later down the road at which point they will be much cheaper than they are now.

If you want to save money, you dont need a $300+ motherboard or $100+ for 8GB of RAM like some people have posted. Something along the lines of the builds on the first page is good and not spending money where you dont need to.
    
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If youre going to play on a single monitor, then a single card is fine. You won't have any problems on any game, and you can add a second card later down the road at which point they will be much cheaper than they are now.
If you want to save money, you dont need a $300+ motherboard or $100+ for 8GB of RAM like some people have posted. Something along the lines of the builds on the first page is good and not spending money where you dont need to.
$300? $100+? Where are you getting these numbers from?
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$300? $100+? Where are you getting these numbers from?

Some of the builds on page 2. Such as the Maximus IV Extreme Z and Corsair Dominator 2x 4GB with the fans.
    
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